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From Indie to Action Comedy

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July 31, 2018 Directors, Film Industry, Genres, Highland, Producers, QandA, Scriptnotes, Software, Transcribed, Writing Process

John welcomes Susanna Fogel and David Iserson to talk about making their new movie, The Spy Who Dumped Me. They discuss the transition from TV and indie film to blockbuster, the collaboration involved in crafting a comic action sequence, and the fun of production overseas.

Susanna and David explain the advantages of spec scripts (this was one), and what it’s like writing with a partner.

Links:

* Thanks to [Susanna Fogel](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2573005/) and [David Iserson](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1503347/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1) for joining us! [The Spy Who Dumped Me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaHhduqS5o) is in theaters now.
* David’s much-anticipated [premiere suit](https://www.gettyimages.ca/event/premiere-of-lionsgates-the-spy-who-dumped-me-after-party-775191455#david-iserson-and-susanna-fogel-attend-the-after-party-for-the-of-picture-id1005457440)
* [Banvard’s Folly](http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312300336/?tag=johnaugustcom-20) by Paul Collins
* [American Kingpin](http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143129023/?tag=johnaugustcom-20) by Nick Bilton
* [Natalie Walker’s Twitter Auditions](https://twitter.com/nwalks/status/961448710151516160?s=12)
* Also, as promised in [episode 357](http://johnaugust.com/2018/this-title-is-an-example-of-exposition), this is Craig’s [fancy corkboard](http://johnaugust.com/Assets/corkboard.jpg)!
* [The USB drives!](https://store.johnaugust.com/collections/frontpage/products/scriptnotes-300-episode-usb-flash-drive)
* [David Iserson](https://twitter.com/davidiserson) on Twitter
* [Susanna Fogel](https://twitter.com/SusannaFogel) on Twitter
* [John August](https://twitter.com/johnaugust) on Twitter
* [Craig Mazin](https://twitter.com/clmazin) on Twitter
* [John on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/johnaugust/?hl=en)
* [Find past episodes](http://scriptnotes.net/)
* [Scriptnotes Digital Seasons](https://store.johnaugust.com/) are also now available!
* [Outro](http://johnaugust.com/2013/scriptnotes-the-outros) by Rajesh Naroth ([send us yours!](http://johnaugust.com/2014/outros-needed))

Email us at ask@johnaugust.com

You can download the episode [here](http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/scriptnotes_ep_361v2.mp3).

**UPDATE 8-7-18:** The transcript of this episode can be found [here](scriptnotes-ep-361-from-indie-to-action-comedy-transcript).

You’d hardly recognize Arlo Finch overseas

July 18, 2018 Arlo Finch, Big Fish, Books, Film Industry

[Arlo Finch in the Valley of Fire](http://johnaugust.com/arlo-finch) came out in February 2018 in the US and Canada, but the international editions are only now debuting. And in many cases, the book you see in stores overseas looks very different.

Here’s the book in the US, with a cover by [Vivienne To](http://www.vivienneto.com).

valley of fire book cover

Italian publisher Mondadori is the first to offer a translated version — it came out this month. They’re using the same basic artwork for *La Valle del Fuoco*.

arlo cover in italian

So far, Italy is the exception. In most markets, publishers are creating their own artwork for the cover.

German publisher Arena went with a more comic-book style, illustrated by [Helge Vogt](http://www.trickwelt.com). It comes out in August.

German cover for Arlo Finch

The German version also has interior illustrations — the only one so far. Translation is by [Andrea and Wieland Freund](https://www.welt.de/autor/wieland-freund/).

French publisher Milan hired [Levente Szabó](http://www.briskgraphics.com) for their edition, which comes out in September. They’ve stuck with Adam Ladd’s [Cheddar Gothic](https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adam-ladd/cheddar-gothic/) as the typeface, however.

French Arlo Finch cover

In France, instead of *Valley of Fire,* this book is subtitled *The Mystery of the Long Woods.* It’s very common for French publishers to rename books; the first Harry Potter is *The School of Sorcerers* in France.

The French translation is by [Leslie Damant-Jeandel](https://lesliedamantjeandel275164429.wordpress.com/2017/11/28/arlo-finch-tome-1/). It’s terrific. I got a chance to look through it when doing press in Paris earlier this summer.

The Swedish and Norwegian editions also come out in September. Here they’ve gone for more of a Stranger Things vibe.

Swedish Arlo Finch

The artist is [Håkan Liljemärker](http://www.liljemarker.com). The Swedish translation is by [Mats Kempe](http://www.alma.se/en/Jury/Mats-Kempe/), while the Norwegian is by [Tore Aurstad](https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tore_Aurstad).

The Dutch cover for *Arlo Finch: De Vuurvallei* is the only one with photographic elements. As I’m posting this, the artwork isn’t finalized, and I haven’t learned details about the translator. It’s scheduled to come out in October. ((I’ll be headed to Germany, Norway, Sweden and Denmark in October for launch events. More details soon.))

In addition to these countries, Arlo Finch is also scheduled to be released in translation for Denmark, Poland, Brazil, Romania and Israel. No word yet on what those covers will look like.

## Why aren’t international covers the same as the US?

As a screenwriter, I’m used to seeing some variation in movie posters and video covers. Not only do studios mock up and test various versions of one sheets, ((“One sheet” is the standard term for movie posters in the US. Classically, they’re printed in reverse on the back side so that when inserted into a lighted display case at a movie theater, the color is vibrant.)) they sometimes make different choices for US and overseas markets.

In the case of Big Fish, Sony Pictures tried a completely different approach in Japan.

US big fish poster

Japanese Big Fish poster

But for the most part, the one sheet for a given movie is going to look very similar in most countries. That’s because in the age of worldwide marketing, it’s generally the same studio releasing the film in every territory, often on the same date.

That’s not true for books. In most cases, publishers are only buying rights to the book for a single country or language, and the book will come out months after the English debut.

For Arlo Finch, Macmillan is my publisher for the US and Canada, but I have [11 different publishers](http://johnaugust.com/arlo-finch#international) for other languages. When these publishers bought the book, they only bought the text, not the cover — that’s owned by Macmillan.

Which means international publishers have a choice:

1. Negotiate to license the cover from Macmillan.
2. Make their own cover.

Publishers generally choose the second option. It gives them the chance to make their own creative choices about how to market and position the book for their market.

French publisher Milan might have a theory that French girls are less likely to pick up a book without a girl on the cover. German publisher Arena may have data showing that German kids want books to look like comics even when they’re not. ((I’m making these examples up.))

While rates can vary wildly, cover artists are not that expensive. So it makes sense for publishers to hire their own.

As an author, do you get much say in book covers? Generally, no. You may have some contractual approval, but it’s more akin to giving one’s blessing than actual feedback. They don’t want you to hate the cover, but short of that, they’re fine trusting their instincts. ((Movies are largely the same in terms of approvals. Filmmakers will be shown a range of possibilities, but the real decisions are made by the marketing team.))

## Which is the “real” Arlo Finch cover?

Six months ago, I would have said that the US cover is the real cover. It’s still the only one I’ve seen printed on a book jacket.

But now I’m not so sure. I love the French and Scandinavian covers, especially how they seem to push the age up a bit. I’m intrigued by the German cover, even if it’s not my taste.

In the end, book covers serve two purposes. The first is as bait. Does the design convince you to pick up the book? My hunch is that all of these international covers do the trick.

The second function of a cover design is to help frame the reading experience. That’s what I’m most curious about with some of these covers. By showing Arlo’s friends, does it suggest the story will be an ensemble adventure? Does emphasizing the Hag on the German and Scandinavian covers signal too strongly what’s going to happen in the book?

We’ll see. I’m excited to start getting reactions from folks reading Arlo Finch in a language other than English.

Meanwhile, I’ve just gotten my advanced copies of the second book in the series, *Arlo Finch in the Lake of the Moon.*

arlo finch lake of moon book

Each international publisher will soon need to figure out how they want to handle the cover this time. Do they feature the lake, the monster, the patrol, or another set piece in the book? There’s no one right answer, and just like with *Valley of Fire,* there won’t be one definitive cover. But this one’s going to be hard to top.

Where Movies Come From

July 17, 2018 Adaptation, Comics, Film Industry, Follow Up, Genres, News, Producers, Rights and Copyright, Scriptnotes, Transcribed, WGA, Writing Process

John and Craig welcome Liz Hannah (screenwriter of The Post) to explore where movies come from, be it real life, storytelling social media sites, or all-powerful comic book IP. How do these story sources affect the writer’s relationship with the material and with the audience?

We also follow up on the meaning of “Jackman Shot” and answer listener questions about using accents to indicate foreign language, where low-budget holiday movies fit into a blossoming writing career and the responsibilities of adapting the work of someone with a questionable moral legacy.

Links:

* Thanks for joining us, [Liz Hannah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Hannah)! Liz’s film, [The Post](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Post_(film)), was a Best Picture nominee.
* [Fred Jackman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Jackman), [cinematographer/writer/director/special effects hero](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413164/), is the apparent namesake of the Jackman shot.
* [How Wattpad is Rewriting the Rules of Hollywood](http://www.vulture.com/2018/07/how-wattpad-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-hollywood.html), by Chris Lee writing for Vulture
* [Hunting the Con Queen of Hollywood: Who’s the “Crazy Evil Genius” Behind a Global Racket?](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/hunting-con-queen-hollywood-1125932), by Scott Johnson writing for the Hollywood Reporter
* [Comic Book Shake-Up: DMG Entertainment Acquires Valiant ](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/valiant-acquired-by-dmg-entertainment-comic-book-shake-up-1078980), by Borys Kit for The Hollywood Reporter
* [Valkyrie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6n3hRZmgxU), [Schindler’s List](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRGC-w9syA) and [The Death of Stalin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukJ5dMYx2no) are examples of how one can handle the indication of foreign language.
* [Who We Are and How We Got Here: Ancient DNA and the New Science of the Human Past](https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-How-Got-Here/dp/110187032X) by David Reich
* [GamePigeon](https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gamepigeon/id1124197642?mt=8)
* [Overlooked](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/obituaries/overlooked.html) by the New York Times adds obituaries for remarkable people that were overlooked in their time, like Bette Nesmith Graham who invented liquid paper.
* [The Scriptnotes Listeners’ Guide!](http://johnaugust.com/guide)
* [The USB drives!](https://store.johnaugust.com/collections/frontpage/products/scriptnotes-300-episode-usb-flash-drive)
* [John August](https://twitter.com/johnaugust) on Twitter
* [Craig Mazin](https://twitter.com/clmazin) on Twitter
* [Liz Hannah](https://twitter.com/itslizhannah) on Twitter
* [John on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/johnaugust/?hl=en)
* [Find past episodes](http://scriptnotes.net/)
* [Scriptnotes Digital Seasons](https://store.johnaugust.com/) are also now available!
* [Outro](http://johnaugust.com/2013/scriptnotes-the-outros) by Larry Douziech ([send us yours!](http://johnaugust.com/2014/outros-needed))

Email us at ask@johnaugust.com

You can download the episode [here](http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/scriptnotes_ep_359_v2.mp3).

**UPDATE 7-23-18:** The transcript of this episode can be found [here](http://johnaugust.com/2018/scriptnotes-ep-359-where-movies-come-from-transcript).

Point of View

July 10, 2018 Film Industry, Follow Up, Scriptnotes, Sundance, Transcribed, Words on the page

John and Craig discuss the power of point of view in scripts and how the choice of which characters have storytelling power changes how we experience a movie. Point of view has a meaningful role in creating mystery, expanding scale, elevating characters, and energizing a story.

We also answer listener questions about “Jackman shots,” renaming a character in the middle of a story, and supporting a child who writes.

Links:

* [Scriptnotes Digital Seasons](https://store.johnaugust.com/) are now available!
* [Margin Call](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHl7hKlVj4) uses the ”plain English” trope a little differently.
* Justin Dise walks through the [basic shot types](https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/video/tips-and-solutions/filmmaking-101-camera-shot-types) in a blog post for B&H.
* [Bubble](http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/bubble), a podcast by Jordan Morris
* [Alleys](https://www.alleys.tw/), an immersive escape mobile game
* [The Scriptnotes Listeners’ Guide!](http://johnaugust.com/guide)
* [The USB drives!](https://store.johnaugust.com/collections/frontpage/products/scriptnotes-300-episode-usb-flash-drive)
* [John August](https://twitter.com/johnaugust) on Twitter
* [Craig Mazin](https://twitter.com/clmazin) on Twitter
* [John on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/johnaugust/?hl=en)
* [Find past episodes](http://scriptnotes.net/)
* [Outro](http://johnaugust.com/2013/scriptnotes-the-outros) by Luke Davis ([send us yours!](http://johnaugust.com/2014/outros-needed))

Email us at ask@johnaugust.com

You can download the episode [here](http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/scriptnotes_ep_358.mp3).

**UPDATE 7-17-18:** The transcript of this episode can be found [here](http://johnaugust.com/2018/scriptnotes-ep-358-point-of-view-transcript).

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