The Remnants, in full


I showed a snippet back in October, but here is the full web pilot I shot during the strike. If you click through to Vimeo, you can see it in full-screen HD.1

For the past few months, the pilot has been shopped around to advertisers and other possible sponsors, but given the economy and my schedule, it’s looking unlikely that a confluence of money and time will lead us to shoot more. So I wanted to let people see it, particularly because it features some actors who should be on more lists. Including Ze Frank, who is now an Angeleno.

The web series business model has proved tough for everyone to figure out. Yes, Joss Whedon’s Dr. Horrible was fantastic, but even that couldn’t get the ad sponsors it should have. Selling through iTunes is an option for someone with Whedon’s name brand, but I don’t see it working for The Remnants, even given the recognizability of some of the cast members.

I retained rights to do other things with The Remnants, so I certainly may come back to it at some point in some other form.

The proposed Seth Rogan/Jay Baruchel comedy Jay and Seth vs. The Apocalypse seems kind of similar, but the What Actually Happened is a lot different. Had Chas and Norman successfully gotten their Wii hooked up and powered, they would have realized many of their assumptions about the end of civilization were wrong.

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January 8, 2009 @ 9:37 am | Comments (125)
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125 Responses to “The Remnants, in full”

  1. Chiafos

    An apocalypse comedy? Sweet!

    I want a Helvetica t-shirt now.

  2. Hartwell

    I want so much more of this.

  3. khkg

    wow, hope this somehow gets resurrected.

  4. Peter

    That’s a really nice concept, I’d love to see more. And I definitely need to get one of those Helvetica t-shirts, too …

  5. John

    The Helvetica t-shirt was custom made by our costumer, Molly Grundman. But I suspect it wouldn’t be hard to make your own.

  6. tcampbell

    I hope you get to continue this. The cast is fantastic!

    Any chance you’d be willing to discuss the production? What was the budget? How many shooting days? What format did you shoot on? What is the SAG internet agreement?

    Thanks again for this site, btw!

  7. Johnny Hugel

    That’s awesome, I’m sorry nothing became of it…yet Hopefully it will help get Ze and others some attention.

  8. Erin

    I’m so disappointed this isn’t going to be a full series. I loved the clips back in October and had been talking to people in my office about this series just the other day.

    Here’s hoping some suit somewhere changes their mind about The Remnants

  9. Dan

    “You guys have been free pooping!”

    Pure genius.

  10. Sarah

    I love the “We / Wii”-joke. We have a similar gag in class. One of my fellow students figured something out about a dead line and shouted out a long “Wiiiiiiieeee?” (in English “What?”)

  11. Chris

    Hilarious, but for realism I’ve got to give you a 0. No super-mutants? No ghouls? No Yao Guai?!

    Mostly I’m just pissed because I don’t get to hear more about the whole Grand Canyon thing.

  12. Will

    Loved it. The gradual reveal in that first scene, with the dip down to the gun in the trousers and “Remember eBay?” was great. Taking the time to do the fence-hopping gags is much appreciated.

    There are surely other ways to keep the embers on this warm. Do a few webcomics to let the characters seep out into the geek community, maybe.

    Is there any improvising going on with the cast there? You got across a lot of rapport in very little time.

  13. Britt

    Great job. Maybe enter it into some film festivals so it can have a life. I’d also like to read about the actual production. How many days, how long, budget, directing, etc. Thanks

  14. John

    @Will:

    There is some improvising. You can see the whole script in the Library.

  15. Chas

    Loved it.

  16. Martin

    Great job. But the prospect of this just sitting for this long is so depressing. Hopefully enough hits here will do the trick, so pass the word, folks.

  17. Farley

    I like it a lot. I am wondering if you got any money for putting a Pringles commercial in there? Or what is the legal deal with having brand logos in a show? Is it any different for a lower budget, lower key show than, say, mainstream TV crap like CSI?

  18. John

    @Farley:

    The Pringles were just to have a recognizable piece of culture, but the idea was certainly that a brand (or collection of brands) might want to be in that place.

    Because don’t you sort of want to eat Pringles after watching this?

  19. Luke

    I absolutely loved this and would very happily eat truckloads of Pringles if it meant we get to see more. (So get onboard sponsors!)

    I’d have to say that The Remnants and Dr Horrible are two of the most entertaining things I’ve watched recently and yet neither project was blessed by helpful notes from a studio. How very, very strange…

  20. Martin

    Nice. And taking into account the global reach of the internet, how valuable such penetration would be to those ubiquitous worldwide brands? I’m guess it would be a big deal. I wonder if the idea did not involve, at one point, to have a world famous A (or A minus) lister to pop in for a cameo. (Perhaps even holding the brand of choice. How would you like that with your fries, mister food conglomerate?)

  21. Martin

    meant to say ‘my guess’ (not I’m guess) — darn the editor

  22. Joel

    I thoroughly enjoyed this and am happy to finally see it in full after being teased back in October. Also I’ve loved Amanda Walsh since I was a teenager… so she helps!

    An FYI: Helvetica shirts are definitely available just like the one seen in the episode. I’ve seen them in Germany where typeface nerds roam freely. After seeing the Helvetica documentary, it pops out everywhere.

  23. Mike

    About the only criticism I had was the explicit “What with the collapse of civilisation” line – it was much more fun gradually having the point made.

    I loved it, want more, although part of me wonders how a series would deal with the inevitable reveal of “them” – would it be able to keep the cheerful low-budget feel, or would it have to change? Pity it looks like we won’t be able to find out, one way or the other…

  24. Michael Bell

    Why isn’t this on HBO now!? This is great?

  25. Paul Ramos

    John, I totally enjoyed the full ep. and was oddly wondering about it maybe a week ago. So releasing this now was a great piece of synchronicity for me. I wonder if using something like eventful would be a good gauge of demand, or bargaining chip with a studio for this type of thing?

  26. Jason

    I thought it was good but lacked a strong push in any specific direction. I wasn’t sure if the comedic angle would be it’s strong point, or the mystery of what happened, or the relationships between the people. I think it just needs more time and episodes to develop and hopefully that eventually happens.

    Somewhat reminded me of http://www.iamnotinfected.com which is a spoof on a sort of post apocalyptic LA infested with zombies. It also started slow but has become very entertaining. Interestingly they don’t have any big sponsors. I definitely recommend it.

  27. Russell Anderson

    That was so satisfying. Most webshows I can’t stand for more than a couple of minutes. That had me drawn in the whole time. What the hell happened at the Grand Canyon?!!

  28. Jill

    Just to give a heads up to anyone interested — I do a weekly online video review at NewTeeVee Station, and this week I covered “The Remnants.”

    http://newteevee.com/2009/01/09/more-of-john-augusts-remnants-please/

    Apologies to John and everyone else involved if I’ve made any factual errors; it was a last minute decision for me to write about this rather than another piece, so there wasn’t time to hit you up for an interview. My editor and I actually crossed emails yesterday afternoon — I got her “I think you should write about ‘The Remnants’ this week instead” just as she was getting my, “I think I should write about ‘The Remnants’ this week instead.” So it was a race to the finish for me to file the review in time for morning publication.

    Hope you enjoy it. All of us at NTVS loved the pilot.

  29. Caroline Martin

    More please! This is fantastic. I want to at least read if I can’t see more about this world that’s been created.

  30. Matthew James

    I didn’t get it. The camera movements were annoying.

  31. BSH

    I thought I’d let you learn from my own rat experience John:

    http://www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?t=13410&highlight=

  32. Father Louis

    This show was good. Captured interest, made me laugh. I would definitely love to see more, so I say everyone go out and buy Pringles to jumpstart the economy.

  33. Farley

    I think I actually did eat Pringles after watching this. So there ya go. Also, yeah, if Pringles gave you money and that allowed you to make more that would be brilliant.

  34. Donald

    Honestly, it’s not just that I would enjoy zoning out in front of some more mildly entertaining episodes. I’m a sucker for your story. You totally have me hooked.

    The great production values helped. The acting in particular was top notch — that moment that Chaz smiles at Ze before the ‘free pooping’ line — and the writing too.

    Have you guys considered something like Coudal Partners has been doing with micro-producers? (Set up a Paypal, give us sneak peeks and freebies, put our names in the credits, and even let the big donors have some creative input.)

    Really, more please.

  35. Phi.Sanders

    I am going to buy some pringles right after I post this message. And (another) Wii. And some batteries to put in my fridge (but you didn’t state a brand, are Energizer OK?)

    Now, get Ze back in front of the camera and make him tell me what the fudge is up with the Grand gawdurn Canyon!

    Ohhh, almost forgot the Vienna Sausages! Armour, are you listening? Sponsor this show already.

  36. Jonas

    Once you pop you can´t stop! I want more of this and, yes, I´d like a Helvetica shirt as well.

  37. Erik

    Most brilliant , fresh, great idea iv seen in a years. Please continue with this series

  38. Stefan Hayden

    well I’m in for $40 for a whole season. who’s with me?

  39. Martin Luther

    Fantastic, why is this series not being made RIGHT NOW! This is a Tier 2 series easily, beats the shit out of most competition.

  40. Boo

    I would like to see where it goes very much. Hope funding is found to keep it going.

    Yes. I do want Pringles now. They owe you.

  41. Meg

    This is fantastic – an excellent representation of the next phase of television. It would be a shame to have to look back on this and think, “We did it before those guys…”

    I hope the economy and your schedule do not prevent production of future episodes, this could truly be a successful endeavor.

  42. Emily

    AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

    MORE!!! THERE HAS TO BE MORE!!!!

    How can I watch that and there not be more??? This is worse than the koo koo roo story!

    I’ll see Stefan’s $40 and raise it $10.

  43. Lukas

    This is just awesome!! Make it!!!

    Have you never tied a girl to a chair before?

  44. Gabriel Pannwitz

    I would be willing to sponsor this. $40 seems appropriate.

  45. Jonas

    hope this is not the end…

    great show!

  46. a.gray

    please explain the over abundance of re-run marathons (episodes of law and order from 2000?) and this hasn’t been picked up? i was hooked in the first few seconds. brilliant casting!

  47. robin

    this is really really good.

  48. t3knomanser

    That was excellent.

  49. Dave

    I’d never realized until now how much Ze reminds me of Hugh Laurie as Dr. House before this.

  50. Dan

    More, more more! This is great, and I would absolutely pay to see a bunch of them.

  51. ratchetcat

    Oh, so you’re just going to cut us off at the knees on the whole Grand Canyon thing, are you?

    (Great acting all around in this. More would offer a welcome escape from the looming Depression, you know.)

  52. ovid

    Maybe I’m missing something. But the writing on this isn’t at all up to the standards that the host of this site espouses. I found it sophomoric, thin and derivative.

  53. Ty

    I would watch this. I would buy the DVD box set. I might even go to RemnantCon.

    Somebody pick this up as a show, please!

  54. Draft the Remnants

    Hey everyone! Let’s show how much we want to see The Remnants become a series.

    Let ‘em know that you’d be willing to pay for quality content.

    Tell your friends on twitter, facebook, on the street, where ever…

    Draft the Remnants!

  55. Dave

    Great stuff… (I know I’m not offering anything new and constructive, but the only way an advertiser would be interested in this is if there was already an audience.) Honestly, there have been some decent web shows out there, there really needs to be an outlet for them.

    I take it Nintendo wasn’t interested in some sort of deal?

  56. Brian

    I’d watch. A few very honest thoughts:

    1) I liked Jericho. This seems like a funny Jericho (post-apocolyptic life). I think there’s something to that as an idea to explore. Clearly, Jericho got popular. Apparently not popular enough for some people, but there’s gotta be a business model there somewhere.

    2) If this was the only pilot shopped around, the production values seemed a little herky-jerky. It didn’t hurt the story so much, but I was thinking about it. I’m not a entertainment pro, so I don’t know if this is normal for this type of thing.

    3) Thought the “chase scene” was not very interesting.

    4) If the apocolyptic cause was something sci-fi (like giant lizards or something), I would have a very hard time watching the rest of the show. (versus something believable like a natural disaster, global climate or nukes of some sort) Actually, I’d probably still stick it out since I’m a fan of Ze’s work. I find him very compelling for reasons I’ve yet to put my finger on.

    5) I thought all the acting was very good.

    6) Maybe starting with the poop jokes (I appreciated them) wasn’t best for the pilot.

    What do I know? I’m just some uncommon geek on the Internet…

  57. Josh Holloway

    I have not read this blog before, but I was led here by John Gruber of Daring Fireball, and I just wanted to say that I loved The Remnants, and I hope to see more of it. This is definitely the kind of show that should be on TV rather than most of the schlock that’s out there right now.

  58. drtofu

    Hey, did someone say Helvetica T-shirts?

    http://www.helveticatheshirt.com

  59. blah

    Ugh… more caucasian hipster yuppie “humor”

  60. Josh

    Rock on. I hope you get the chance to do more with this. I know a lot of folks who would love to watch it!

  61. b

    this is the best thing i have seen. the idea that i might not ever see another episode hurts my soul. this should be on tv.

  62. Michael

    Yikes! Quite a juxtaposition watching this (really great BTW) while in the middle of reading Cormac McCarthy’s “The Road”.

  63. Matt Guest

    Awesome show!

    If this were to make it I think it would quickly become my favorite show. I really enjoyed the pilot and it left me wanting to watch many more episodes.

    The characters (and actors) were great and the grand canyon/flash back thing left quite a bit of mystery and a feeling that something much bigger was lurking just under the surface. The fact that nobody knows exactly what caused the apocalypse is a great touch as well.

    Good luck in finding a home for this, I’ll be watching to jump on board if you do.

  64. cico

    Same as Josh (#57), I got here through Daring Fireball, and loved what I saw! Sweet script, good acting.. free ;) I liked your work a lot, wish you good luck and hope to see more soon! Thanks

  65. rob70

    The product sponsorship idea is great. In that situation, everyone would constantly be stoked on the products they found. Event toilet paper would be an awesome find.

  66. thorn

    My only complaint is that I’m now thoroughly sucked into a story which I have no way to continue discovering. Really hoping you can find a way to continue this.

  67. Diana Hunter

    Add me to the list of those who would watch this — web, TV — keep us informed as interest is there!

  68. tommy

    I

    want

    more.

    But can you keep the writing and the plot interesting without getting too bizarre or giving too much away too quickly? How many seasons could you go before jumping the shark?

    Do they know for sure that the apocalypse has happened?

    T

  69. Dorian

    Who are the actors? Besides Ze. Recognize some faces. Don’t know names.

  70. Steve Wax

    This is really, really strong! Can I post a link on our site, campfirenyc.com? Love the implicit storytelling, how the background of what’s going on unfolds through the piece. Congratulations, this should get sold as a series!

  71. Kyle

    This is wonderful! You must do more!

  72. iLLa

    i’d buy a season on DVD.

  73. a girl from the valley

    “Have you never tied a girl to a chair before?” is the best line ever!

  74. TheBon

    This is really fantastic!

  75. ToddG

    Was pointed here from John Gruber, and I am so glad that he did What an amzing cast – really want more!

    I too love the bit about the texture of the fridge…

  76. wjcstp

    Great pilot, lots of interesting plot hooks that i want to see followed further. I’ll bet you’d do pretty well through the itunes store, there are a lot of people who remember Ze’s show alone.

  77. nic

    wow. thanks for sharing that.

    genuinely funny, genuinely entertaining, definitely screaming for a full season of episodes.

  78. ks

    That was great! If you don’t know Star Wreck(starwreck.com) already, check it out. There might be something in their model that could help. Basically they fundend it by themselfs and by volunteering but ended up with a business and nice profits(from merchandise and dvds), even the movie was released free on the internet.

  79. richard

    Absolutely amazing short. I’ve watched it 3 times already. It’s amazing how well you integrated the backstory into the script, and established a bigger mystery within in just 11 minutes. I really want to know what the Grand Canyon is all about. This already seems more well thought out than Lost, which became much too meandering and ridiculous.

    I am actually sad that this will (probably) not be a series, and I don’t even have cable or watch broadcast tv.

  80. Justin

    Great show. In terms of the business model, I wonder if this would work:

    1. Publicly post a cost estimate for producing season 1 and a deadline for raising the money;

    2. Accept discounted pre-orders from potential viewers for copies of season 1;

    3. Continue to pursue large corporate-style sponsorships;

    4. Publicly post an ongoing total of money raised vs. money needed;

    5. If you meet the cost estimate within the deadline, produce season 1 and fulfill the pre-orders. Then you could sell additional copies of season 1 to anyone else at a higher-than-pre-order price;

    6. If you don’t meet the cost estimate within the deadline, refund the pre-orders and sponsors;

    Best of luck.

  81. Jason

    Ze Frank just looks out of place in Los Angeles.

  82. cj

    Go for it! It sucks to say that just because you’re not Joss Whedon, you won’t try the iTunes thing. People are so ready for some apocalyptic humor.

  83. tanya

    i don’t get it. sorry.

  84. editor

    worst part of a economic downturn – we now get to see the good stuff that is being dropped, rather than suffering the pap that get taken!

  85. vanderwal

    This was some of the best television I have seen in a while. I would turn on my set for this. Intelligent, humorous, playful, hooked on wanting to know Grand Canyon story, and so much more.

  86. tovarich

    i’ve never read this site before, just discovered thanks to gruber. great site, and great pilot. hope find sponsors for it. i guess i’m gonna be a regular of this site from now on. oh, and i want a garamond t-shirt.

  87. julia gulia

    man. bummer on the lack of funding. any possibility of fans donating and or some fan loan site or something? i could see that possibly working..

  88. Organic Lemonade

    Please, please, please make more episodes. So good.

  89. Andrew

    Get that sumbitch on Itunes NOW!. Let the public decide.

  90. Ty

    “I would love a Helvetica shirt but I can’t afford it. Anyone know where I can get an Arial shirt?”

  91. Shayne

    This would be a perfect web series. There’s no way a station would pick this up–it’s too smart. Oh sure, SciFi or MTV might pick it up for a season and f$%^ it up, but this thing screams “The Guild” or “Dr. Horrible” (while also seeming to be the best parts of Lost somehow?). Fuck it. Make episodes. Go bankrupt. Find sponsors. I want to watch this.

  92. Joanna

    I thought the dragged-out chase scene with the struggles to get over the fences was brilliant. At first I thought it was a one-off at the gate, and then I realized that no, short of being a trained martial artist or a gymnast or something like that, you’re not going to be able to hop over every fence you see. Really drove home the realism for me. I love it. Want more! :-)

  93. Joey

    What was the budget for this and how big was the crew?

  94. Alex Payne

    Julia Gulia — Fans donating? Are you seriously that hard up to throw away cash? Jesus…..couldn’t you find a more worthwhile cause– like a charity to free children being beaten and imprisoned in Zimbabwe or something? I get that you like the episode, but why on hell would you want to throw your money at some stupid webshow made by a guy that makes 10 times as much as you probably ever will. Get your priorities straight sister. .

  95. Casey O'Neil

    Why can’t this be made? Why is regular tv always putting on so much crap, yet not into brilliant ideas like this? It makes no sense!

  96. Yammo

    This was fabulous! :D

  97. trouble

    lol@amanda walsh. never seen that former much vj in anything else and shes a good cast.

    I hope it continues

  98. jimmy sans coeur

    too good to abandon…

  99. Al

    Great pilot. Wish it was made. I’d pay money to see this on a regular basis.

  100. stevebirney

    I enjoyed that very much. Many great bits. I liked how mundane and normal it all seemed. Even the guns and other survival related stuff were just everyday things. And, I have to say, Ze Frank never caught on with me until I saw this. I will go back and look at his stuff again.

    I would certainly pay for episodes of this on itunes or XBOX Live Marketplace.

  101. Matt

    More.

  102. michael

    LOVE IT. i for one would buy this or watch it. really hope this gets off the ground in one form or another.

  103. bfwebster

    well I’m in $40 for a whole season. who’s with me?

    I am! Let’s see, that makes…uh…$130 pledged so far. :-)

    Seriously, I would pre-pay for this series to be made. I’m just not sure how to set up that financing model. Paypal? Amazon? ..bruce..

  104. Kit

    That was awesome! I would love to see this continue. You’ve got another fan.

  105. Chris K

    MAKE THIS SHOW!!! I SO want Ze Frank to get in front of a camera since “The Show” went bye-bye. And he’s GOOD as an actor! Looks kind of like Alan Tudyk’s low-key brother. Definitely would pay for a subscription to this on iTunes or whatever.

  106. Fredrik

    Great! I keep thinking I will get to see it continue! Hope it gets made! My kind of humour! “Grand canyon” mmm

  107. Karl

    Very interesting, I’d certainly like to see more. I hope you’re able to resume production on this someday.

  108. Simon Dyda

    I’m intrigued. More please!

  109. Ben Bamford

    I like this a lot. Really original, had me glued to it, more would be awesome!!

  110. Clyde Boyer

    That actually had me hooked. I’d not only watch it, I’d TiVO it and make my family watch it. An apocalyptic Gilligan’s Island, only funny and without the hot chicks.

  111. Scott

    I really enjoyed that, I think that this could make a really entertaining and interesting show. I got a little BBC sitcom vibe from it. Witty and dark comedies like this can really shine if done right and absolutely fall flat if not. There were some awkward scenes in the pilot, but considering the nature of the production, it really speaks.

    Notice I didn’t say ‘it could be a big hit’ because I don’t think this show has that kind of appeal, but it could do VERY well on a network like Sci-Fi or UPN. I would definitely watch it, the characters are likeable, well-cast and thought out. I think bringing the realism, humor and humanity to this scenario is funny and a little scary at the same time.

    I think that you should at least shop this to some of the smaller networks. It’s a niche show, but a really GOOD niche.

    Shoutout to Ze Frank! I’ve been waiting for his hilariously rubbery face to show up in Hollywood. The scrabble short on his website still makes me laugh so hard I cry every time I watch it.

  112. The CineManiac

    I loved this. I want to know what happened (although in my head I see a Grand Canyon full of dead bodies). If I had money I’d gladly give it to you to finish this, but alas I’m a poor working class stiff. But I’ll be passing this around as much as I can for support.

  113. Princess Haiku

    Sounds like a great concept to me. I just finished reading “The Road” too and it isn’t too hard to imagine.

  114. Stig

    This is so entertaining.

    I’m a big fan of the new Survivors on BBC (see it if you can). But this takes the apocalypse to a different level.

    Great luck on moving this project forward.

  115. charco

    awesome, nice style, good writing.Would love to see more

  116. anonymous

    wow, this is an amazing comedy. If it were to be discovered by some big shot, im POSITIVE it would sell big right now with the economy in an uproar and 2012 comin up (hahaha, lazy myans).

  117. Tobais

    I want more! Please give meee!!

    Seriously I’d love to pre-order this series. If it was possible. And I think I could scramble up a few friends too who would too.

  118. effinggreat

    loved it…great work…

  119. Jason

    The comedy was excellent and the dramatic moments left me thirsty for more. The hints of what these characters know but aren’t telling makes for some great tension, which in turn makes the comedy funnier.

    Not to overanalyze but I think this could be a serious hit.

  120. Marianne

    That was really good – better than a lot of stuff that’s currently on TV. The writing and acting were very entertaining and the situation just unique enough you don’t guess what’s coming next. It doesn’t hurt that Ze Frank is in it :) I would definitely seek this out if it became a series.

  121. akaMAT

    I have been Jonesing for “the show” for months now! I keep watching re-runs! Ones like “how do you wash a giant baby?” “How do you work this thing?” “These Brooklyn Stairs.” LOVE them! LOVE THEM! I MISS THEM! MY kids MISS THEM! MY friends who just started watching miss them.

    I MISS THE FREAKING SHOW DUDE!!! Please at least consider doing a once a month thang. Like you could just do a short Vid on your goofy little songs.

    I love your goofy little songs… I make up goofy little songs all the time but they are no where near as cute and good as your goofy little songs!

    [sigh] Ok… I’ve ask… that’s all you can do.

    Peace out! Mat

  122. John Haddox

    Great original concept and casting. I am a huge Ze fan and his acting is everything I expected. Best of luck. This should be a huge hit.

  123. Nick

    An Amazing show. Hope it gets carried on!

  124. steve garfield

    Thanks for posting the full episode. I loved it, blogged it and tweeted it.

    Would love to see more.

  125. Jason

    Absolutely loved this. I’d pay for it on iTunes!

 

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