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Workspace: Erin Gibson and Bryan Safi

October 18, 2011 Los Angeles, Workspace

Erin Gibson and Bryan Safi

Who are you and what do you write?
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workspaceWe’re Erin Gibson and Bryan Safi, writing duo, Mariachi mini-band, and born-again virgins. We met two ways. First, doing comedy at [UCB Theater](http://losangeles.ucbtheatre.com/), then later we found ourselves working for the same show, Current TV’s [Infomania](http://current.com/shows/infomania/), where we wrote and hosted our own comedy segments. Bryan hosted “That’s Gay,” a weekly look at how the media treats gay people and issues, and Erin’s “Modern Lady” tackled the media’s portrays of women and their issues.

We used humor to talk about heated issues like Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, the de-funding of Planned Parenthood, and all the other awful things that women and gays have to deal with. The segments got us a lot of attention, but not a lot of action. So, we worked hard to get the show cancelled so we could start pulling in bucket loads of pussy.

When Infomania ended, we tried to figure out a way to have an outlet for our political comedy. We know people at Funny or Die and called them and pitched them Marcus and Michele Bachmann as recurring characters on the site. We’ve done [fives videos](http://www.funnyordie.com/search/a?q=bachmann+gibson&x=0&y=0) so far. We’ll write a draft, do two or three re-writes, then we punch up on set. They’re written, shot and edited sometimes in as little as two days, so there’s not a lot of time to mull them over.

We’ve found time in our schedules to do the following in the last four months: write two TV pilots, outline a feature, live tweet every GOP debate ([@gibblertron](http://twitter.com/#!/gibblertron) and [@bryansafi](http://twitter.com/#!/bryansafi)) and put on a monthly show at UCB called “[Entertainment Hollywood](http://losangeles.ucbtheatre.com/shows/view/2782),” a satire of those awful gossip shows, wherein we play two tan idiots with an irrational amount of confidence who cover important news like, what George Clooney’s favorite gelato bar is.

We don’t like to work separately, but we do because you have to have four million jobs in LA to pay the rent. Bryan writes for Joan Rivers on “Fashion Police,” and hopefully you can see Erin in a couple of commercials in the coming months.

We do it all. Well, we never hug. So, we do everything but hug.

Where and when do you write?
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We were taking turns at each other’s apartments, but the problem with that is, in the evening, when we’re all done, there’s no escape from the feeling of work. So, our new plan is to hit up fun places around town. West Hollywood just opened an amazing library with meeting rooms, and have you ever written at [Barnsdall Art Park](http://www.barnsdallartpark.com/)? What a treat!

All of our ideas seem to be generated on walks around LA. Erin lives in West Hollywood, and Bryan lives in Los Feliz, two heavily populated, walkable areas, full of the most ridiculous people on the planet. We’re fascinated by people. How they talk, how they cross the street, how they gesture. And we’re not afraid to stare.

For instance, we recently heard a woman in line for coffee in Los Feliz say, “I want a latte, but I’d like to eat it here.” Gold. When we hear stuff like that, we either email to it ourselves or write it down immediately.

Basically, all of our ideas seem to come from the fact that we love to walk around town, pointing and laughing. And don’t misunderstand us, we don’t just do it because we’re awful people. We do it because we’re awful people who hate ourselves.

As far as schedule, we treat it like a workday — a workday that starts after we’ve both gone to the gym at 10AM. But we work five days a week and put in around 40 hours. We take it very seriously. Also, we would like to not go crazy, and having a steady schedule sure does help!

What hardware do you use?
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We both use MacBooks and sometimes Erin uses an iPad with a bluetooth keyboard. We also use our phones for notes, a lot. Bryan has an iPhone 4 and Erin has a GalaxyS. We use the native notes programs on those phones.

Both phones have been dropped several times. Sometimes in toilets.

What software do you use?
—

Up until we send our scripts out to prospective money-havers, we use [Google Docs](http://docs.google.com) all the way. It’s great. We can keep a notes doc and several versions and both be in the document at the same time.

Hey [Final Draft](http://finaldraft.com), how come we gotta be network admins to figure out Collabowriter?

But, I will say this about Final Draft — they might not be operating in the same technological age as the rest of the world, but it’s the best program for easy, precise formatting.

What would you change about how you write?
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We really wish we had an office so that we’re not distracted by phone calls or doing dishes or keeping the person we’ve abducted quiet. And again, if we could find the perfect software to use for collaboration, that would be brilliant. But, those seem to be the only things that we find ourselves longing for.

Fine, and an endless supply of boxed wine. The kind in the cube, not the rectangle. We have some class.

Workspace: Beth Schacter

October 14, 2011 Workspace

beth schacter

Who are you and what do you write?
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My name is Beth Schacter. I wrote and directed an indie called [Normal Adolescent Behavior](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790721/). My next film is called [A Virgin Mary](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1874400/) and stars Abigail Breslin.

I’ve written for TV and theater and recently adapted my Popcorn Fiction story “[Break Up 5000](http://www.mulhollandbooks.com/popcornfiction/stories/The_Break_Up_5000_by_Beth_Schacter.html)” for producer Lynda Obst. On Twitter, I’m [@bethshax](http://twitter.com/bethshax) where I rarely tweet about anything professional.

Where and when do you write?
—-

workspaceOur office is downstairs, in a space I share with my husband, Ben, when he is working from his edit bay at home. When he’s not I have the space to myself — which isn’t good when you need to be shamed into concentrating. I have a narrow wooden desk made from reclaimed wood that discourages clutter — in theory.

My work day hopefully starts between 8:30 and 9:30. I get up early and try and get out for at least a 40-minute walk with the dog (for both our sakes) and then eat breakfast because you have to eat breakfast. That whole “most important meal of the day” thing is no joke.

The first thing I do is open whatever I have to work on. I may not touch it for an hour but at least it is there, nagging me, reminding me that it needs attention. I’ll check emails, deal with production things that need to be dealt with and probably spend a little too much time on social networks. You know you are in trouble when people greet you at parties with “I love your Facebook status updates!”

On days when I write in my office I usually play NPR on a volume a little too low for me to actually hear it. I just need a little white noise. I have music sometimes, but for some reason I find music more distracting.

I also leave my phone upstairs and turn on [Freedom](http://macfreedom.com/) as much as I can.

But honestly, when a draft needs to get churned out I need to be anywhere else but in the office. I need to forget the dog, the house, the laundry, the six recipes I’m dying to make.

I usually head to a library (Silverlake is great) for the first couple of drafts and then I’ll lock myself in a hotel room for 24-48 hours, sit on the bed, order inappropriate amounts of room service and gut it out. And usually I have to change locations three or four times a draft; sometimes I write in bed, sometimes on the couch, sometimes in a coffee shop.

If a place has been unproductive I change the place; it’s not superstition, it actually works.

Because I run at least five times a week, a lot of days I have to pack up by 5:30 or so (that’s also when the dog starts his campaigning, an endearing and annoying series of cute maneuvers that includes sighing, laying down dramatically and sighing some more). So my writing day is really 10 to 5.

Once or twice a year we go someplace completely off the grid and work for at least a week. Someplace with no TV, no cell phone reception, no internet. Our favorite place is [Sheep Dung Estates](http://www.sheepdung.com/) in Boonville, CA. Don’t let the name fool you. It’s heaven on earth.

What hardware do you use?
—-

I do all my notes, ideas and brainstorming in graph-ruled composition books. I use black ball point pens because I do…habit I guess.

I shot-list and storyboard in them as well. My shot list/storyboards are pretty sad, but they work for me. I describe the scene and then either sketch the frame for proportion or floor plan the sequence. I tried fancy notebooks but I felt like I was ruining them with mediocre ideas and bad sketches. Cheap quadrilles never judge me.

I have a Mac Mini that absolutely cannot run any sort of game or play movies and a large Dell monitor I inherited when Ben upgraded to HD monitors. I use the standard keyboard and sit in a knock-off Aeron chair.

I use a footstool because I’m super short and my feet don’t exactly touch the ground. And I use a Logitech gamer mouse that has a trackball that I love.

For middle of the night ideas I use my iPhone’s notepad feature. However terrible my text input is on the phone it is far more legible than my scribbles in the dark.

I have a MacBook that I use when I’m not at my office. Don’t tell the MacBook, but he’s getting replaced by an Air later this year.

What software do you use?
—-

I write on [Movie Magic](http://www.screenplay.com/p-29-movie-magic-screenwriter-6.aspx). I hate Final Draft because I don’t know how to use Final Draft. Most times I outline in Movie Magic, syncing everything using [Dropbox](http://dropbox.com). Dropbox is a miracle. I have a redundancy with a 1TB hard drive (LaCie usually) where I dump drafts once every few days.

I also rewrite everything in revision mode. Once you get used to the asterisks you really grow to love them.

I am a Post-It note user when I have to do a pitch. I put all the cues for the pitch on Post-Its, stand in front of them and practice while walking around. And then I type it up and drive around practicing. My carbon footprint for pitching is relatively big.

I used to use [Scrivener](http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php), but I found it was too easy to spend my time resizing cards and reformatting the outline, so low tech is the way I go. Also I like to write inside my outline document, re-dating it every day, so that I can keep the first draft as loose as possible. I take notes inside drafts as well.

My one complaint about Movie Magic is that it doesn’t have a graveyard function, or at least I can’t figure it out. I send a lot of stuff to a graveyard using TITLEMOVIE_GYARD but that’s cut and paste and I’d like to be able to reference it — it’s an editing habit that I wish was more easily translatable to screenwriting software. I suppose I could drag and drop the scenes to the end of the script and tag them a different color, but that feels like way too much work. Plus it will give you a false sense of page-accomplishment.

What would you change?
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I would turn on [Freedom](http://macfreedom.com/) more. Maybe get a fancier chair.

When we buy a house and move we will probably put together a RAID drive with 2 or 3 TB that we can access over the network, but I’ll still use Dropbox. I’d finally settle on a keyboard upgrade.

I’m amazed by how many different ways there are to work. I know teams that work off of IM, people who only write in public, people who only write in longhand, people who can have the internet on all day. You find what works for you and you stick with it until it stops working. So far this method works, but if it ever stops, I’ll change almost everything.

My daily writing routine

October 7, 2011 Workspace

A few weeks ago, I mentioned that I use [Evernote](http://evernote.com) as an all-purpose notebook for storing random ideas. Several readers mentioned that it was the first time they had ever heard of it, and wondered what other tools I was using.

So, in the spirit of [The Setup](http://usesthis.com/), I thought I’d give a breakdown of my daily work habits. In the weeks ahead, I’ll be asking other screenwriters to share their routines. I hope to make this a recurring feature.

workspace

Where and when do you write?
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I work in an office built over my garage. Until she was four, my daughter didn’t realize that I was approximately 100 feet away when I went “off to work.” She finally caught on, but we’ve been able to set pretty firm guidelines about when she is and isn’t allowed to interrupt me.

I’m “in the office” from 8:30 a.m. to 6 p.m., but I wander in and out of the house pretty freely.

For the past six months, I’ve been doing most of my “morning work” — reading and blog stuff, such as writing this post — while walking on the treadmill. I MacGyvered an old film festival lanyard to hold my iPad 2, and use an Apple bluetooth keyboard. I find I can think coherently up to about 3.2 miles per hour. (Beyond that speed, it’s genuine cardio and I can only listen to podcasts and such.)

When I’m really writing — that is, buckling down on a specific draft of a specific movie — I try to write five pages a day. Page counts tend to be a better measure of effort than time spent in front of the computer.

When I start a new screenplay, I generally go away for a few days. I find that barricading myself in a new hotel in a new city helps me break the back of a story. I hand-write pages, trying to plow through as much as possible; my record is 21 pages in a day. Writing by hand keeps me from editing and second-guessing. At the start, it’s crucial to generate a critical mass of pages.

Every morning, I send what I’ve written to my assistant to type up. I used to fax pages, but on this last trip I just photographed the pages with my iPad and uploaded them to a shared folder in Dropbox. It’s simple, and guaranteed backup.

If I’m writing something specific to a place, I’ll go there. For Preacher, I went to San Antonio. For Lovecraft, I went to Providence. I could sit in the exact spot Lovecraft wrote his stories. That’s a rare luxury.

Otherwise, I’ll go to Vegas. If you’re not drinking or gambling, Las Vegas is a surprisingly good city for writing: when you get stir crazy, you can walk somewhere new. There are lots of restaurants, and no one looks at you strangely for being alone.

I find I can generally get 40 decent pages out of a good barricading session. I won’t paste the scenes together until I’m more than halfway through a script.

What hardware do you use?
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When writing by hand, I like a white, lined, letter-sized writing pad with a very stiff back. It should barely bend. I’ve been using some generic Staples brand.

My preferred pen is the black Pilot G2 (.38 size). It’s cheap; it writes consistently; I never worry about losing one. For proofreading, a colored felt-tip pen is key. I like the Papermate Flairs. Again, cheap and losable.

I alternate between index cards and whiteboards for mapping out stories. If you’re going to be working in television, get comfortable with the whiteboard, because you’re going to be spending a lot of time staring at one.

My main computer is a five-year old Mac Pro. It’s overkill for screenwriting, but I do a fair amount of video editing on it. I have an SSD for a boot drive, and big hard drives in the other three bays (including one for Time Machine). I’ll definitely get a new Mac Pro when the Thunderbolt version ships.

I love bare hard drives. They’re amazingly fast and cheap. The [Voyager Q](http://www.newertech.com/products/voyagerq.php) toaster-style dock works great for making drive clones for off-site backup.

Years ago, I had horrible carpal-tunnel problems, so I changed my setup significantly. I use the SafeType keyboard and an [Evoluent vertical mouse](http://www.evoluent.com/). The keyboard is great, but command-key combos are a bear with it, so I’ve mapped a [Logitech G13 gamepad](http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/5123) to handle most of them. (I wrote in 2004 about my [keyboard setup](http://johnaugust.com/2004/my-new-keyboard-setup). It’s largely the same.)

I have a 30-inch monitor dating from 2004. I love it, but it’s easily overwhelmed with windows. I’m trying to use Mission Control on Lion to keep stuff sorted. I use Harman-Kardon [SoundSticks](http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_browse/product_detail.asp?urlMaterialNumber=SOUNDSTICKS3AM&status=) for speakers. I still use the original iSight camera, the one that looks like a stainless steel film canister.

For travel and kitchen duty, I have a 13-inch Macbook Air. It’s as great as everyone says.

I used to talk on the phone a lot more, and found a [Plantronics S12 headset](http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/s12) essential. I still use it, but phone conversations are not nearly as important as they were just a few years ago.

For podcasting, I’m using the [AT2020 USB microphone](http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/a0933a662b5ed0e2/index.html) and [Sony MDR-7506 headphones](http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/). When in doubt, just use whatever [Dan Benjamin](http://hivelogic.com/articles/podcasting-equipment-software-guide-2011/) recommends.

I adore the [ScanSnap S1500M scanner](http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/peripherals/scanners/scansnap/scansnap-s1500m.html). It’s a monster that eats paper and makes pdfs. I’ve happily gotten rid of most of my physical files with it.

What software do you use?
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I do most of my “real” screenwriting in [Final Draft](http://finaldraft.com). I don’t love it. My greatest frustration is usually with its Smart Type Lists, which invariably want to insert extraneous bits of parenthetical detail after character names, so I end up having to type more letters just to get past its unhelpful suggestions.

I’ve also used [Movie Magic Screenwriter](http://www.screenplay.com/p-29-movie-magic-screenwriter-6.aspx), and found it to be approximately as frustrating in slightly different ways. So it’s a case of the devil you know.

In no way am I slamming these two apps; I’m grateful they exist and afraid they might go away. Over the years, I’ve tried out every new piece of screenwriting software that’s come along and found them lacking.

There are small but important details that you have to get right, such as handling dialogue across a page break. ((Dialogue should break at the end of a sentence. Final Draft and Movie Magic Screenwriter are the only applications I’ve seen get it right.)) I’ve played around with two or three different applications built atop Adobe Air, all of which had unacceptable typing lag.

For the current screenplay I’m writing, I’m trying out [Scrivener](http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php). It’s complex, but the underlying logic is consistent and smart and fits nicely with my workflow, since individual scenes can get stitched together quickly. I like that the developer keeps updating it.

On the other end of the complexity spectrum, [Freedom](http://macfreedom.com/) is a dirt-simple shell script that blocks your internet connection for a set period of time. It’s a lifesaver.

Other than screenplays, I write almost everything in [TextMate](http://macromates.com/). Yes, I’m worried it’s going to break one day and the developer won’t be around to fix it. Yes, I’ve tried all the alternatives. I’m so accustomed to how it works — and have set up so many macros and snippets — that the switching costs would just be too high right now.

[Dropbox](http://dropbox.com) seems like magic. In addition to storing my active projects, I keep a folder named Pending in the Dropbox with an alias on the desktop. Anything that would normally clutter up the desktop, I throw in Pending.

[Evernote](http://evernote.com) has become my all-purpose inbox. If I come across something interesting that pertains to something I’m writing — or think I might one day write — I’ll throw it in there. Some of my friends use Evernote for their to-do lists, but I’ve found it too unwieldy.

I’ve used a lot of GTD productivity apps over the years, including [OmniFocus](http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus/) and [Things](http://culturedcode.com/things/). Right now I’m using [Todo](http://www.appigo.com/todo), which has really good integration between the desktop app and its iOS apps. Before I made the switch, I was using [Listary](http://byportmanteau.com/listary) for the iPhone, which is a smart and fast little app I never hear anyone talking about.

Because it’s included with system software, Preview doesn’t get the attention it deserves. You can easily rearrange or delete pages in a PDF with it, or combine multiple documents. It’s amazing and overlooked.

I use Mail, but recently switched my Gmail-hosted addresses over to [Sparrow](http://sparrowmailapp.com/), which I like a lot. I use Google Calendar instead of iCal. I’ve found it works better for sharing.

I do all my RSS-reading on the iPad now, using [Reeder](http://reederapp.com/ipad/). I use the official [Twitter client](https://twitter.com/#!/download/iphonecom) for Mac and iPhone, but [Twitterific](http://twitterrific.com/ipad/) on the iPad. [Birdhouse](http://birdhouseapp.com) keeps me from drunk-tweeting.

What would you change about how you write?
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When I first got started writing, I had a lot of bad habits. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve stopped being so judgmental, so now I just call them “habits.”

The life of a screenwriter can be a lot like that of a college freshman. You screw around a lot, then burn the midnight oil to finish that assignment. You don’t necessarily outgrow that.

Ideally, of course, you work a set number of hours every day and deliver your best material. I’m at my happiest as a writer when I feel myself doing that — excited to sit down and write that next scene. But that doesn’t always happen. It doesn’t *often* happen. A lot of times, writing is just a slog.

I’ve fully accepted that it won’t get easier or more fun. But it can stay interesting, and there’s a lot to be said for interesting.

I’m trying to challenge myself to write projects outside of my comfort zone, either in terms of subject or form (e.g. the Big Fish musical). I find writing prose fiction exhausting, but rewarding, so I’ll probably do more.

And while I’ve resisted collaborating, I’m getting better at it. Once Big Fish hits the stage, I’ll probably try another TV show if I’m not directing a movie. Basically, there’s a lot I want to do. Prioritizing what to write is probably my biggest issue at this point.

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