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September 24, 2013 Big Fish, Broadway, Follow Up, Scriptnotes, Story and Plot, Transcribed

John and Craig welcome their largest live audience yet for a conversation about Kickstarter, movie pilots and musicals. Joined by special guest Andrew Lippa, they talk about the special challenges and opportunities that arise when characters break into song.

It’s the biggest, gayest, most musical episode yet. Everyone sings.

Links:

* See [Big Fish on Broadway](http://www.bigfishthemusical.com/)
* If you don’t have your Scriptnotes USB drive yet, [email Stuart and let him know](mailto:orders@johnaugust.com)
* [Back episodes](http://johnaugust.com/scriptnotes) are available now
* The Yank! Original Cast Album [has been funded](http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1046922831/yank-original-cast-album)
* Aaron Cooley asks: [Why don’t movie studios make pilots?](http://hollywoodjournal.com/industry-impressions/why-dont-movie-studios-make-pilots/20130920/)
* [Andrew Lippa](http://andrewlippa.com/), and [on Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lippa)
* [Recette](http://recettenyc.com/) restaurant
* [Bid now](https://www.charitybuzz.com/catalog_items/371106) for a Big Fish backstage tour with John and Andrew (and support a Los Angeles public school)
* [Let us know](mailto:ask@johnaugust.com) if you’re in Vienna and willing to meet up with Craig
* The [Falsettoland cast album](http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V9WJ68/?tag=johnaugustcom-20), and [on Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsettoland)
* Thank you and congrats to pianist and soon-to-be husband [Daniel Green](http://www.danielgreenmusic.com)

You can download the episode here: [AAC](http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/scriptnotes_ep_109.m4a) | [mp3](http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/scriptnotes_ep_109.mp3).

**UPDATE** 9-27-13: The transcript of this episode can be found [here](http://johnaugust.com/2013/scriptnotes-ep-109-scriptnotes-live-from-new-york-transcript).

Big-screen dramas on stage

August 27, 2013 Big Fish, Broadway

USA Today’s Elysa Gardner interviewed me and Andrew Lippa about *Big Fish* and the influx of movie-based [dramas on Broadway this season](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/theater/2013/08/26/fall-broadway-preview-focusing-on-musical-adaptations-of-dramatic-films/2676519/):

> “The musicals that have been very successful with audiences over time are generally the ones that traffic in big emotions,” notes Lippa, whose credits as a composer and lyricist range from Broadway’s *The Addams Family* to the darker, more reflective *The Wild Party*. “You don’t see a comedy a second time, because the jokes aren’t as funny, mostly. But people have gone back to see *Les (Miserables)* five, six times.”

Lord knows I hope he’s right. In Chicago, I met women who saw Big Fish five times in five weeks.

It’s usually comedies that get adapted for the stage: *The Producers, Legally Blonde, Priscilla Queen of the Desert.* This year, in addition to Big Fish, we have upcoming adaptions of *The Bridges of Madison County, Rocky, and A Time to Kill.*

Big Fish on Broadway, iteration and why I’d love to see you in September

August 17, 2013 Big Fish, Broadway

big fish signI’m in New York for two months as we get Big Fish ready for its Broadway debut. After five weeks of performances in Chicago and a summer hiatus, it’s terrific to be back in rehearsal with the same group of people I adore.

But it’s also strange.

In movies and television, once something is produced you never really get a second crack at it. If a movie is a hit, you might make a sequel. If a television show gets picked up for another season, you shoot new episodes. But you don’t get to go back and reshoot the pilot. ((An exception: the Buffy pilot. And that worked out pretty damn well.))

That’s the rare opportunity we have with Big Fish. I’m obviously focused on the writing side of it — it’s been a very busy summer for me and Andrew Lippa. But I see that same drive in every department, each one asking “How can we do that thing we did before, but better?” From sets to lighting to every step of choreography, we get the chance to assess and improve. It’s exhausting but amazing.

In software design, you call this iteration. You release and refine and repeat. Each generation builds on what came before. When it works right, the results seem obvious — *well of course it should be that way* — but you couldn’t see that when you started.

In TV and film, you don’t get much chance to iterate. Yes, you have all the drafts of the script, but with those you’re making changes to the *plan* for making the project. It’s only in the editing room that you can tweak and test. But by that point, you’re limited to what you shot. Extensive reshoots are rare and costly.

By contrast, iteration is very much the experience of making live theater. You do readings and workshops and finally get to the stage. Then every night, you’re putting on a show and seeing how it works. Every morning, you’re figuring out how to make tonight better.

And if you’re lucky, you get to stage the whole thing twice: once out-of-town and then on Broadway. We’re a much better show for our five weeks in Chicago, and the months we’ve had to regroup and rethink. We got to make version 2.0, and I’m ridiculously proud of it.

But we’re not done.

##Where you come in
One of the things that was most helpful to me during our Chicago run was that I had a lot of readers and podcast-listeners come see the show during previews. Having familiar strangers in the audience was comforting, and honestly, empowering — *those are my people in the balcony*. It also gave me a reason to escape the backstage whirlwind and socialize like an actual human being.

After the hellos and handshakes, I cut right to the chase: “What did you think? What did you love? Did something confuse you? If you had magic scissors, what would you take out?”

Granted, I could ask these questions of anyone in the audience, and believe me, I did. ((The luxury of being unrecognized is that I can start conversations in the lobby with folks who assume I’m just a fellow audience member.)) But my readers are smarter, or at least more sophisticated. I could dig deeper. I could drill down with follow-up questions: *At what point did you start feeling that way about that character? What if this happened first? Right now, at intermission, what do you hope happens next?*

We got solid reviews in Chicago, and endless helpful notes from smart people who see a lot of theater for a living. But the conversations I had in the lobby of the Oriental Theater with readers and listeners were some of the most valuable feedback of all.

So I want to do that again. I want you to come.

For Chicago, I asked the producers to give me a discount code for the first week of previews. For Broadway, I’ve convinced them to let me have **the whole four weeks of previews**, starting September 5th.

The discount code SCRIPT unlocks seats that are approximately half-off list price:

**From September 5th to ­October 5th**
$74.00 Orchestra and Front Mezzanine
$52.00 Mid-Mezzanine

**From October 8th ­to October 13th**
$85.00 Orchestra and Front Mezzanine
$62.00 Mid-Mezzanine

You can use the SCRIPT code both on [Ticketmaster](http://www.ticketmaster.com/Big-Fish-a-New-Broadway-Musical-tickets/artist/1859083?tm_link=edp_Artist_Name) (when looking at the seat map, click the “Got an Offer Code?” button) and in-person at the [Neil Simon Theatre](http://www.bigfishthemusical.com/tickets.php) box office on 52nd Street if you want to save the Ticketmaster fee.

There’s a chance that if we start selling way too many SCRIPT tickets, they’ll pull the offer — our producers are generous, but not foolish — so if you’re thinking about coming, don’t dally.

And if you’re coming, please let me know. You can [tweet me](http://twitter.com/johnaugust) or send an email to the ask@johnaugust.com account to let me know your date and seats. I’ll be here at least through the official opening on October 6th.

In Chicago, I tried to track down people where they were sitting, which was surprisingly difficult. What ended up working better was for people to wave me down. I look like myself — Google me — so if you see me, say hi. The lobby at the Neil Simon is incredibly small, so you’re more likely to find me in the house or on the street near the stage door. ((A note about the Neil Simon: the mezzanine is pretty great and really close to the stage, so if you can’t get orchestra seats, don’t despair about being up in the balcony. The first couple of rows are some of the best in the house.))

Unlike our five-week run in Chicago, the Broadway run is theoretically open-ended; we’re already selling a lot of tickets for the holidays. So if you can’t make it for previews, still come and tweet me what you thought. I’m eager for you to see it.

Big Fish box office opens

August 8, 2013 Big Fish

big-fish-nycThe box office at the [Neil Simon Theatre](https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=neil+simon+theater&data=!1m4!1m3!1d3085!2d-73.984584!3d40.763138!4m11!1m10!4m8!1m3!1d423285!2d-118.4117325!3d34.020479!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!17b1) in New York City opened this morning, selling tickets for the Broadway incarnation of Big Fish.

First performance is September 5th. Official opening is October 6th.

Tickets are also [available online](http://www.ticketmaster.com/Big-Fish-a-New-Broadway-Musical-tickets/artist/1859083) of course, but Ticketmaster charges a fee and doesn’t even have [ice cream](https://twitter.com/BigFishBroadway/status/365197974961266688) coming at 1pm.

Any readers who can tweet or Instagram me a shot that includes the marquee, ice cream and a Scriptnotes t-shirt will get my ample admiration and a retweet/regram as appropriate.

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