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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Jake:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You wouldn&#039;t get residuals, pension or health plan without joining the WGA. The studio could choose to list any name it wanted to &quot;written by.&quot; These are fundamental protections you&#039;re getting by being WGA, and they&#039;re worth so much that a studio would never give them to some guy who wrote a spec -- unless they had to.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can&#039;t join the WGA (as a full member) until you&#039;re a working writer for the same reason you can&#039;t join the airline pilots&#039; union. It&#039;s not for hobbyists and aspirants. It&#039;s a federally recognized labor organization.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jake:</p>

<p>You wouldn&#8217;t get residuals, pension or health plan without joining the WGA. The studio could choose to list any name it wanted to &#8220;written by.&#8221; These are fundamental protections you&#8217;re getting by being WGA, and they&#8217;re worth so much that a studio would never give them to some guy who wrote a spec &#8212; unless they had to.</p>

<p>You can&#8217;t join the WGA (as a full member) until you&#8217;re a working writer for the same reason you can&#8217;t join the airline pilots&#8217; union. It&#8217;s not for hobbyists and aspirants. It&#8217;s a federally recognized labor organization.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I personally don&#039;t understand why it is mandated that you join the union, AFTER you sell a script.  I mean isn&#039;t that kind of a racket?  Why is it that when I couldn&#039;t sell anything, I wasn&#039;t able to join for the benifits, but now that I&#039;ve sold a script, and made some decent money, I have to pick up slack for others.  I personally think that it&#039;s a big scam.  Sure it works for the people who can&#039;t sell anything, but just because you consider yourself a writer, doesn&#039;t mean that you&#039;re good, and it sure as hell doesn&#039;t mean I have to pay for your insurance with a cut from my salary.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t understand why it is mandated that you join the union, AFTER you sell a script.  I mean isn&#8217;t that kind of a racket?  Why is it that when I couldn&#8217;t sell anything, I wasn&#8217;t able to join for the benifits, but now that I&#8217;ve sold a script, and made some decent money, I have to pick up slack for others.  I personally think that it&#8217;s a big scam.  Sure it works for the people who can&#8217;t sell anything, but just because you consider yourself a writer, doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;re good, and it sure as hell doesn&#8217;t mean I have to pay for your insurance with a cut from my salary.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wonderful! I greatly appreciate your advice. I only asked because others that I talked to had expressed bad experiences (in order to join the WGA East, you are required to join the WGA West as well, etc.). So I assume that after joining the WGA East, I&#039;ll still be able to work with studios and producers on the West? Also, I&#039;ve searched the WGA East website and I can&#039;t seem to find where to sign up (when the time comes). Could you supply me with a link? Many thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Garrett&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>

<p>Wonderful! I greatly appreciate your advice. I only asked because others that I talked to had expressed bad experiences (in order to join the WGA East, you are required to join the WGA West as well, etc.). So I assume that after joining the WGA East, I&#8217;ll still be able to work with studios and producers on the West? Also, I&#8217;ve searched the WGA East website and I can&#8217;t seem to find where to sign up (when the time comes). Could you supply me with a link? Many thanks.</p>

<p>Garrett</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Garrett: Joining either WGA East or West works out the same. I don&#039;t pretend to really understand it, but you only join one, and it&#039;s the same as joining both. Just join the one on your coast.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Garrett: Joining either WGA East or West works out the same. I don&#8217;t pretend to really understand it, but you only join one, and it&#8217;s the same as joining both. Just join the one on your coast.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This was an excellent read. I have a question concerning membership when it comes to the WGA West and the WGA East. I&#039;m relocating to New York in a few months, and eventually I plan on joining the WGA. My question is this: will I be able to register for the WGA East and still get all the benefits of the WGA West, or will I be required to join both guilds? If so, where and how? I&#039;d really appreciate all the information you could supply. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>

<p>This was an excellent read. I have a question concerning membership when it comes to the WGA West and the WGA East. I&#8217;m relocating to New York in a few months, and eventually I plan on joining the WGA. My question is this: will I be able to register for the WGA East and still get all the benefits of the WGA West, or will I be required to join both guilds? If so, where and how? I&#8217;d really appreciate all the information you could supply. Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I recently optioned a script for an American company and am not an American resident or citizen. I am not a member of the guild. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the script is finally sold, is it still mandatory for me to join the WGA? Even not being American? In the option time, is it safe to not be a member?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently optioned a script for an American company and am not an American resident or citizen. I am not a member of the guild. </p>

<p>If the script is finally sold, is it still mandatory for me to join the WGA? Even not being American? In the option time, is it safe to not be a member?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Désirée</title>
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		<dc:creator>Désirée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting reading. Thank you for telling me about this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here comes a question: Writers that are not American citizens, like myself, how do they benefit from the health plan and the pension plan?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading. Thank you for telling me about this.</p>

<p>Here comes a question: Writers that are not American citizens, like myself, how do they benefit from the health plan and the pension plan?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ethan Gentzsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan Gentzsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m the one who asked the original question (among others). I would think that a writer could simply ask a studio/production company they&#039;re negotiating a contract with to be paid the minimum or more, pay into the health and pension plan, get residuals, and demand that they receive credit and/or be the only writer who works on the project. Regarding Craig Miller&#039;s statement, if a company is a WGA-signatory and would have to abide by the Guild&#039;s terms even if a writer is a member or not, then I also would think that a writer could get away with requesting all the above knowing full well the company has to do it. If they&#039;re not sure if they&#039;re a signatory, they could just ask. And if they&#039;re not, well then they had better have a really good entertainment attorney and/or written a really great script that&#039;s had a bidding war start over it that would allow them the extra leverage.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the one who asked the original question (among others). I would think that a writer could simply ask a studio/production company they&#8217;re negotiating a contract with to be paid the minimum or more, pay into the health and pension plan, get residuals, and demand that they receive credit and/or be the only writer who works on the project. Regarding Craig Miller&#8217;s statement, if a company is a WGA-signatory and would have to abide by the Guild&#8217;s terms even if a writer is a member or not, then I also would think that a writer could get away with requesting all the above knowing full well the company has to do it. If they&#8217;re not sure if they&#8217;re a signatory, they could just ask. And if they&#8217;re not, well then they had better have a really good entertainment attorney and/or written a really great script that&#8217;s had a bidding war start over it that would allow them the extra leverage.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To Andrew Bellware, IF the company is a WGA-signatory, then it must abide by the Guild&#039;s terms for all writers it hires, whether they&#039;re members or not.  However, many companies/corporations (including the majors) have several &quot;sub-companies&quot; (my term), some of which are signatory and some of which are not.  They pick and choose which project is done under which company, so that they can abide whichever rules they like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To Mark Martino, I suspect the Northwest Screenwriters Guild is a fraternal organization, not a union.  (While &quot;guild&quot; is frequently used to mean any collective of people working in similar fashion, Guild and Union are synonymous terms in labor; technically they&#039;re both Collective Bargaining Agents under US labor law.)  Unions -- at least unions like the WGA -- require professional status for full membership.  Being a good writer isn&#039;t enough; someone has to pay you for it.  (Some straight lines are too easy; don&#039;t bother picking it up.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Andrew Bellware, IF the company is a WGA-signatory, then it must abide by the Guild&#8217;s terms for all writers it hires, whether they&#8217;re members or not.  However, many companies/corporations (including the majors) have several &#8220;sub-companies&#8221; (my term), some of which are signatory and some of which are not.  They pick and choose which project is done under which company, so that they can abide whichever rules they like.</p>

<p>To Mark Martino, I suspect the Northwest Screenwriters Guild is a fraternal organization, not a union.  (While &#8220;guild&#8221; is frequently used to mean any collective of people working in similar fashion, Guild and Union are synonymous terms in labor; technically they&#8217;re both Collective Bargaining Agents under US labor law.)  Unions &#8212; at least unions like the WGA &#8212; require professional status for full membership.  Being a good writer isn&#8217;t enough; someone has to pay you for it.  (Some straight lines are too easy; don&#8217;t bother picking it up.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for reminding people that screenwriters need leverage and that leverage comes from the WGA, directly or indirectly. Having grown up in a factory town, I learned to support unions. I picketed with the WGA even though I am not yet a member. I was able to meet local members and I got a WGA baseball cap. I wish that the WGA provided an apprentice program so that screenwriters could take advantage of that leverage before selling a first screenplay. At the Northwest Screenwriters Guild in Seattle, anyone can become an Associate member. Associate members then have one of their screenplays reviewed and are then allowed a Guild membership. It would be great if the WGA provided this first two steps. It would increase their membership, leverage, and insurance pool.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for reminding people that screenwriters need leverage and that leverage comes from the WGA, directly or indirectly. Having grown up in a factory town, I learned to support unions. I picketed with the WGA even though I am not yet a member. I was able to meet local members and I got a WGA baseball cap. I wish that the WGA provided an apprentice program so that screenwriters could take advantage of that leverage before selling a first screenplay. At the Northwest Screenwriters Guild in Seattle, anyone can become an Associate member. Associate members then have one of their screenplays reviewed and are then allowed a Guild membership. It would be great if the WGA provided this first two steps. It would increase their membership, leverage, and insurance pool.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bellware</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Bellware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Technically it would be a violation of the National Labor Relations act for an employer to consider an employee&#039;s union status as a condition of employment. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An employer who is a Guild Signatory or an employer who is a non-Guild Signatory both cannot demand that an employee either join a union or not join a union. In non &quot;right to work&quot; states an employer CAN insist that an employee pay minimum dues to the union (by going &quot;financial core&quot;). The reason an employer would do that is because their contract with a union stipulates they must (and such stipulations are typically void in &quot;right-to-work&quot; states).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, typically, employees who are not members of a union are still protected by the contract the union has set up with the employer. Therefore an employer could not, for instance, pay the employee less than &quot;prevailing wage&quot; simply because they aren&#039;t a member of the union. The contract typically covers ALL the workers doing the same work. I don&#039;t know if the WGA contract works this way however.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically it would be a violation of the National Labor Relations act for an employer to consider an employee&#8217;s union status as a condition of employment. </p>

<p>An employer who is a Guild Signatory or an employer who is a non-Guild Signatory both cannot demand that an employee either join a union or not join a union. In non &#8220;right to work&#8221; states an employer CAN insist that an employee pay minimum dues to the union (by going &#8220;financial core&#8221;). The reason an employer would do that is because their contract with a union stipulates they must (and such stipulations are typically void in &#8220;right-to-work&#8221; states).</p>

<p>Also, typically, employees who are not members of a union are still protected by the contract the union has set up with the employer. Therefore an employer could not, for instance, pay the employee less than &#8220;prevailing wage&#8221; simply because they aren&#8217;t a member of the union. The contract typically covers ALL the workers doing the same work. I don&#8217;t know if the WGA contract works this way however.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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