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		<title>By: MisterD</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2009/kindle-formatting-for-web-geeks/comment-page-1#comment-171917</link>
		<dc:creator>MisterD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why did you capitalize the entire first sentence instead of using the :first-line pseudo-class?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just a geeky web design teacher wondering.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>

<p>Why did you capitalize the entire first sentence instead of using the :first-line pseudo-class?</p>

<p>Just a geeky web design teacher wondering.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this. I was wondering about this and had my own theories what would work. Glad to see they were right. However, this means yet another journey back to 1995 as you rightly said!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. I was wondering about this and had my own theories what would work. Glad to see they were right. However, this means yet another journey back to 1995 as you rightly said!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Alan:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the sake of clarity, please note that Peter&#039;s complaint is that &quot;eBooks bought from Amazon will be bound to Amazon.&quot;  A valid concern, certainly... but you then translate this into &quot;all my books,&quot; disregarding the many other sources of Kindle content available online that are NOT dependent on Amazon&#039;s servers or services.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan:</p>

<p>For the sake of clarity, please note that Peter&#8217;s complaint is that &#8220;eBooks bought from Amazon will be bound to Amazon.&#8221;  A valid concern, certainly&#8230; but you then translate this into &#8220;all my books,&#8221; disregarding the many other sources of Kindle content available online that are NOT dependent on Amazon&#8217;s servers or services.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can&#039;t thank you enough for this, especially the sample code file. I&#039;ve been through the Amazon site and it is extremely confusing (very surprising, since their main site excels at usability). Who knew you could explain their required format in just one blog article? Again, many thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t thank you enough for this, especially the sample code file. I&#8217;ve been through the Amazon site and it is extremely confusing (very surprising, since their main site excels at usability). Who knew you could explain their required format in just one blog article? Again, many thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alan Gratz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Peter:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have the same concerns about the Kindle, which is why I don&#039;t own one. I hate to think what owning all my books through a company would mean for how I use them in the future. When someone makes an eReader as nice as the Kindle but free for me to do whatever I please with it, I&#039;ll buy one. In the meantime, I&#039;ll have to settle for reading eBooks in PDF form on my laptop...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter:</p>

<p>I have the same concerns about the Kindle, which is why I don&#8217;t own one. I hate to think what owning all my books through a company would mean for how I use them in the future. When someone makes an eReader as nice as the Kindle but free for me to do whatever I please with it, I&#8217;ll buy one. In the meantime, I&#8217;ll have to settle for reading eBooks in PDF form on my laptop&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peter Resele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Resele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the article, it answers many of my developer questions... also for the interesting analysis on the &quot;real&quot; format behind the extension.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However - I don&#039;t want to dampen your enthusiasm... but is everybody aware that, in contrast to dead trees, eBooks bought from Amazon will be &lt;em&gt;bound to&lt;/em&gt; Amazon - forever? I cannot load them to any other device except what Amazon offers me... this is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; comparable to to original iTunes DRM situation, where there was always the (official) backdoor of burning CDs... personally, I will not accept this, not even when it is offered in Europe. Some of my &quot;wooden&quot; books here are older than 30 years, don&#039;t depend on any company and I can do with them whatever I want.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, it answers many of my developer questions&#8230; also for the interesting analysis on the &#8220;real&#8221; format behind the extension.</p>

<p>However &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to dampen your enthusiasm&#8230; but is everybody aware that, in contrast to dead trees, eBooks bought from Amazon will be <em>bound to</em> Amazon &#8211; forever? I cannot load them to any other device except what Amazon offers me&#8230; this is <em>not</em> comparable to to original iTunes DRM situation, where there was always the (official) backdoor of burning CDs&#8230; personally, I will not accept this, not even when it is offered in Europe. Some of my &#8220;wooden&#8221; books here are older than 30 years, don&#8217;t depend on any company and I can do with them whatever I want.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pond</title>
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		<dc:creator>pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A few notes n tips:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DRM? publish through DTP and there is none.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &#039;thought break&#039; can also be accomplished by starting a standard p with a br. This gives you a blank line followed by no indent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the &#039;height&#039; notations, it&#039;s probably better to use em lengths rather than pixels. Then if the user changes the font size, the whitespace will remain proportional. And for title pages, I like to use percentage (height=&quot;25%&quot; to space down from the top of the &#039;page.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure, but it might be the case that the css can support the &#039;page-break-before: always&#039; tag. This would be a help if all your chapter titles are h2 - then you could just say all h2 headers have the page-break. But I&#039;ve only coded using the mbp:pagebreak because that&#039;s what Amazon is advising.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s also the &#039;margin&#039; css attribute, which works on -top, -bottom, and -left, but not on -right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blockquote indents from the left but not the right.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few notes n tips:</p>

<p>DRM? publish through DTP and there is none.</p>

<p>The &#8216;thought break&#8217; can also be accomplished by starting a standard p with a br. This gives you a blank line followed by no indent.</p>

<p>For the &#8216;height&#8217; notations, it&#8217;s probably better to use em lengths rather than pixels. Then if the user changes the font size, the whitespace will remain proportional. And for title pages, I like to use percentage (height=&#8221;25%&#8221; to space down from the top of the &#8216;page.&#8217;</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not sure, but it might be the case that the css can support the &#8216;page-break-before: always&#8217; tag. This would be a help if all your chapter titles are h2 &#8211; then you could just say all h2 headers have the page-break. But I&#8217;ve only coded using the mbp:pagebreak because that&#8217;s what Amazon is advising.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s also the &#8216;margin&#8217; css attribute, which works on -top, -bottom, and -left, but not on -right.</p>

<p>Blockquote indents from the left but not the right.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For anyone else wondering what blue sky the  tag fell out of, mbp: is the MobiPocket namespace. A full list of custom tags is at http://www.mobipocket.com/dev/article.asp?BaseFolder=prcgen&amp;File=tagref_mobi.xml (Small nit to pick, then: your file is actually XML even if you think it isn&#039;t.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For those bemoaning lack of Kindle in Europe, or Amazon DRM, or whatever, try to see the big picture here. There is a reason this product is named Kindle. It&#039;s a prototype. Amazon is showing us the true potential, too long latent, of e-books when distribution is perfectly aligned with consumption. You will have one soon enough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone else wondering what blue sky the  tag fell out of, mbp: is the MobiPocket namespace. A full list of custom tags is at <a href="http://www.mobipocket.com/dev/article.asp?BaseFolder=prcgen&amp;File=tagref_mobi.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobipocket.com/dev/article.asp?BaseFolder=prcgen&amp;File=tagref_mobi.xml</a> (Small nit to pick, then: your file is actually XML even if you think it isn&#8217;t.)</p>

<p>For those bemoaning lack of Kindle in Europe, or Amazon DRM, or whatever, try to see the big picture here. There is a reason this product is named Kindle. It&#8217;s a prototype. Amazon is showing us the true potential, too long latent, of e-books when distribution is perfectly aligned with consumption. You will have one soon enough.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jean-Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, regarding the non availability of Kindle books in Europe, I don&#039;t believe there is a conspiracy from anybody. But I do believe there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; some lazyness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Amazon &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; the right to ship dead trees, it should be able to arrange for the right to ship bits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What am I doing? I am letting my voice heard, and I support initiatives here in Europe which tend to tear down intellectual rights cross national barriers. These efforts have led to the the recent push towards a unique iTunes Store across Europe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;But&lt;/em&gt;, and this is a big &quot;but&quot;, our European voices are not loud enough. The best thing to do would to get for some help from you American. If every time somebody publishes something [&lt;em&gt;supportive&lt;/em&gt;] about the Kindle, s/he kindly reminds that the picture is darkened by this issue and requests some progress, then that would be the best pressure on Amazon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, regarding the non availability of Kindle books in Europe, I don&#8217;t believe there is a conspiracy from anybody. But I do believe there <em>is</em> some lazyness.</p>

<p>If Amazon <em>has</em> the right to ship dead trees, it should be able to arrange for the right to ship bits.</p>

<p>What am I doing? I am letting my voice heard, and I support initiatives here in Europe which tend to tear down intellectual rights cross national barriers. These efforts have led to the the recent push towards a unique iTunes Store across Europe.</p>

<p><em>But</em>, and this is a big &#8220;but&#8221;, our European voices are not loud enough. The best thing to do would to get for some help from you American. If every time somebody publishes something [<em>supportive</em>] about the Kindle, s/he kindly reminds that the picture is darkened by this issue and requests some progress, then that would be the best pressure on Amazon.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, regarding the non availability of Kindle books in Europe, I don&#039;t believe there is a conspiracy from anybody. But I do believe there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; some lazyness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Amazon &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; the right to ship dead trees, it should be able to arrange for the right to ship bits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What am I doing? I am letting my voice heard, and I support initiatives here in Europe which tend to tear down intellectual rights cross national barriers. These efforts have led to the the recent push towards a unique iTunes Store across Europe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;But&lt;/em&gt;, and this is a big &quot;but&quot;, our European voices are not loud enough. The best thing to do would to get for some help from you American. If every time somebody publishes something [&lt;em&gt;supportive&lt;/em&gt;] about the Kindle, s/he kindly reminds that the picture is darkened by this issue and requests some progress, then that would be the best pressure on Amazon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, regarding the non availability of Kindle books in Europe, I don&#8217;t believe there is a conspiracy from anybody. But I do believe there <em>is</em> some lazyness.</p>

<p>If Amazon <em>has</em> the right to ship dead trees, it should be able to arrange for the right to ship bits.</p>

<p>What am I doing? I am letting my voice heard, and I support initiatives here in Europe which tend to tear down intellectual rights cross national barriers. These efforts have led to the the recent push towards a unique iTunes Store across Europe.</p>

<p><em>But</em>, and this is a big &#8220;but&#8221;, our European voices are not loud enough. The best thing to do would to get for some help from you American. If every time somebody publishes something [<em>supportive</em>] about the Kindle, s/he kindly reminds that the picture is darkened by this issue and requests some progress, then that would be the best pressure on Amazon.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really useful tips. Thanks for taking the time to write this up!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really useful tips. Thanks for taking the time to write this up!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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