Comments on: New Nines stuff in the Library http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library A ton of useful information about screenwriting. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:52:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-132723 John Mon, 19 May 2008 19:43:33 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-132723 <p>@Erin, @mark:</p> <p>You're welcome. Glad it's a help.</p> @Erin, @mark:

You’re welcome. Glad it’s a help.

]]> By: mark http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-132672 mark Mon, 19 May 2008 16:02:48 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-132672 <p>Your continued willingness to post these tools in your download section is something worthy of it's own statue! The time you take to do this is appreciated beyond words. I enjoy the blog whether the content is industry driven or simply your life in general insights but I do leap for joy every time a new offering is put into your download section. They have helped me greatly not only in the writing but more importanly in the preperation to write. </p> <p>Many many thanks</p> Your continued willingness to post these tools in your download section is something worthy of it’s own statue! The time you take to do this is appreciated beyond words. I enjoy the blog whether the content is industry driven or simply your life in general insights but I do leap for joy every time a new offering is put into your download section. They have helped me greatly not only in the writing but more importanly in the preperation to write.

Many many thanks

]]> By: Erin http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-131025 Erin Mon, 12 May 2008 20:30:47 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-131025 <p>I enjoyed the visual effects PDF. Thanks for including this and all the downloads on your site.</p> I enjoyed the visual effects PDF. Thanks for including this and all the downloads on your site.

]]> By: KT http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130983 KT Mon, 12 May 2008 15:52:08 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130983 <p>Everything <em>can</em> be planned in advance. In fact, it should be. There are enough things that are going to go wrong that it's just bad medicine not to have everything at least planned to go right. (There are those whose style involves just setting up the cameras and actors and having the script nearby for reference, but I'm not one of them. Then again I've never made In The Mood For Love.)</p> <p>Now, that doesn't mean that nature and time and other forces beyond your control won't completely make a mockery of your planning.</p> <p>But it can and should be planned.</p> <p>As for shooting 10 pages a day, indies do it for obvious reasons -- namely, because they have to -- but no one in their right mind, having done it, would choose to do it again, had they any choice.</p> <p>Along that line, it's not that hard to shoot a bad feature in 24 days, but 24 days for The Nines -- given how it turned out -- is impressive.</p> <p>P.S. Movie Magic Scheduling is such a terrible and spiteful little program. There's got to be at least a small captive market there for someone who actually wants to try writing a replacement sober.</p> Everything can be planned in advance. In fact, it should be. There are enough things that are going to go wrong that it’s just bad medicine not to have everything at least planned to go right. (There are those whose style involves just setting up the cameras and actors and having the script nearby for reference, but I’m not one of them. Then again I’ve never made In The Mood For Love.)

Now, that doesn’t mean that nature and time and other forces beyond your control won’t completely make a mockery of your planning.

But it can and should be planned.

As for shooting 10 pages a day, indies do it for obvious reasons — namely, because they have to — but no one in their right mind, having done it, would choose to do it again, had they any choice.

Along that line, it’s not that hard to shoot a bad feature in 24 days, but 24 days for The Nines — given how it turned out — is impressive.

P.S. Movie Magic Scheduling is such a terrible and spiteful little program. There’s got to be at least a small captive market there for someone who actually wants to try writing a replacement sober.

]]> By: John August http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130977 John August Mon, 12 May 2008 15:13:32 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130977 <p>@Sarah:</p> <p>The Nines was shot on film, and SD video for Part Two.</p> <p>The web pilot I just shot was on the HVX200. I'm no camera whiz, but it does show frame rate.</p> @Sarah:

The Nines was shot on film, and SD video for Part Two.

The web pilot I just shot was on the HVX200. I’m no camera whiz, but it does show frame rate.

]]> By: Sarah http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130930 Sarah Mon, 12 May 2008 09:34:08 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130930 <p>Hehe, thanks, John. Our lecturer always tells us that "everything" can be planned beforehand... I couldn't quite believe it. You were shooting with the HVX200, right? Strangely it did not show the "frames" in the timecode as we were shooting and nobody in college knows how to adjust it! It seems like a joke!</p> Hehe, thanks, John. Our lecturer always tells us that “everything” can be planned beforehand… I couldn’t quite believe it. You were shooting with the HVX200, right? Strangely it did not show the “frames” in the timecode as we were shooting and nobody in college knows how to adjust it! It seems like a joke!

]]> By: Ayz http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130854 Ayz Mon, 12 May 2008 00:13:41 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130854 <p>Gotcha. Very interesting.</p> Gotcha. Very interesting.

]]> By: John August http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130826 John August Sun, 11 May 2008 21:37:27 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130826 <p>@Sarah: </p> <p>I didn't stick particularly close to the shotlist, but the schedule was dead-on. We pretty much had to shoot exactly those scenes on exactly those days to make it work.</p> <p>@Ayz:</p> <p>You'll find indies that shoot 10 pages a day, but a movie the size of The Nines would generally be in this range. The first week was the only really brutal one, but it was by far the most expensive per-day because of locations and cameras.</p> <p>Go was also 4-5 pages a day, but over a longer schedule. You generally won't find studio features shooting that much -- I just visited a friend's movie, which only scheduled 1 7/8 on the day I stopped by.</p> <p>TV dramas shoot six or more pages a day to make their schedules. They have the benefit of standing sets, which make lighting faster.</p> @Sarah:

I didn’t stick particularly close to the shotlist, but the schedule was dead-on. We pretty much had to shoot exactly those scenes on exactly those days to make it work.

@Ayz:

You’ll find indies that shoot 10 pages a day, but a movie the size of The Nines would generally be in this range. The first week was the only really brutal one, but it was by far the most expensive per-day because of locations and cameras.

Go was also 4-5 pages a day, but over a longer schedule. You generally won’t find studio features shooting that much — I just visited a friend’s movie, which only scheduled 1 7/8 on the day I stopped by.

TV dramas shoot six or more pages a day to make their schedules. They have the benefit of standing sets, which make lighting faster.

]]> By: Ayz http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130776 Ayz Sun, 11 May 2008 16:55:31 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130776 <p>What's the usual average for a film like this? </p> <p>4-5 doesn't seem bad to me.</p> What’s the usual average for a film like this?

4-5 doesn’t seem bad to me.

]]> By: Sarah http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130756 Sarah Sun, 11 May 2008 14:51:15 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130756 <p>Thanks a lot, John! Especially for the shotlist. It's very interesting for a film student to see all the paper work behind a professional movie that's already hit the big screen. I had to shoot a music video myself last week, I had a well thought out shotlist, too, but in the end we didn't really stick to it entirely <em>G</em></p> <p>Did you really stick 100% to your shotlist while filming The Nines or were there moments when you had to depart from it?</p> <p>I guess the more expensive a film, the more you have to stick to the actual shotlist, right?</p> Thanks a lot, John! Especially for the shotlist. It’s very interesting for a film student to see all the paper work behind a professional movie that’s already hit the big screen. I had to shoot a music video myself last week, I had a well thought out shotlist, too, but in the end we didn’t really stick to it entirely G

Did you really stick 100% to your shotlist while filming The Nines or were there moments when you had to depart from it?

I guess the more expensive a film, the more you have to stick to the actual shotlist, right?

]]> By: Mike Rinaldi http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/new-nines-stuff-in-the-library/comment-page-1#comment-130701 Mike Rinaldi Sun, 11 May 2008 08:06:51 +0000 http://johnaugust.com/?p=1033#comment-130701 <p>The first film I worked on I think we averaged 3 pages a day and that was on a $2 million budget.</p> The first film I worked on I think we averaged 3 pages a day and that was on a $2 million budget.

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