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		<title>By: Toothpick Nick</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-61514</link>
		<dc:creator>Toothpick Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a hard task, because not only are you writing two simultaneous events, but you&#039;re editing the film here as well. You could have easily written the two events on separate sheets of paper and told the editor &quot;you&#039;re on your own,&quot; but this is a screenplay, not a kinder surprise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re eliminating decision-making that the film&#039;s editor would have had to do, because the shots and their sequence is implied in the script. It&#039;s cool because although it&#039;s difficult, writing it all out gives you the ability to influence the dramatic pacing of the scene, before it even gets to the director.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a hard task, because not only are you writing two simultaneous events, but you&#8217;re editing the film here as well. You could have easily written the two events on separate sheets of paper and told the editor &#8220;you&#8217;re on your own,&#8221; but this is a screenplay, not a kinder surprise.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re eliminating decision-making that the film&#8217;s editor would have had to do, because the shots and their sequence is implied in the script. It&#8217;s cool because although it&#8217;s difficult, writing it all out gives you the ability to influence the dramatic pacing of the scene, before it even gets to the director.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hollie</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-61282</link>
		<dc:creator>Hollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually just broke rule #4 and wouldn&#039;t have thought twice about it.  The information delivered via television is pivotal to the conclusion of my film but I&#039;m not sure what would work better. Reading it in a newspaper seems too cliched as well.  How does my character find the news out through TV or another medium without readers cringing and saying, &quot;damn that&#039;s obvious!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually just broke rule #4 and wouldn&#8217;t have thought twice about it.  The information delivered via television is pivotal to the conclusion of my film but I&#8217;m not sure what would work better. Reading it in a newspaper seems too cliched as well.  How does my character find the news out through TV or another medium without readers cringing and saying, &#8220;damn that&#8217;s obvious!&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: clarkman</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-61213</link>
		<dc:creator>clarkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You also see the use (and mis-use) of journalistic narrative in many novels, particularly crime thrillers and mysteries. Often they&#039;ll include an excerpt from a newspaper story. As a former newspaper reporter, most of these make me wince. They usually get everything wrong, from tone to the logical dissemination of facts. You don&#039;t need to go to J-school to learn this -- as with TV news, these are standard journalism tools anyone can pick up by simply paying attention.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also see the use (and mis-use) of journalistic narrative in many novels, particularly crime thrillers and mysteries. Often they&#8217;ll include an excerpt from a newspaper story. As a former newspaper reporter, most of these make me wince. They usually get everything wrong, from tone to the logical dissemination of facts. You don&#8217;t need to go to J-school to learn this &#8212; as with TV news, these are standard journalism tools anyone can pick up by simply paying attention.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dave Olden</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-61163</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Olden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;And if the reporter is gonna say â€œIn other news,â€? there should be some other news.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jim, you made me remember &lt;i&gt;Wargames&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The scene is early in the film, and Matthew Broderick arrives home. It&#039;s a pretty straightforward entrance: he&#039;ll enter the door then go to the stairs (frame right).  The TV is on, and the anchor (a real anchor from a local Seattle affiliate) after finishing the story-relevant business, says...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;ANCHOR (ON TV): ... In other news, a fire at a prophylactic recycling facility - -&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know whether it was scripted, or an ad lib. (I haven&#039;t read Walter Parkes&#039; screenplay. I&#039;m gonna say ad lib; that they shot longer to allow for more choice in when to cut out of the shot.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There you have it. An occasion when they actually continued to &quot;other news.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Not sure if this is pointed out on the DVD, since I saw it years ago on VHS.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And if the reporter is gonna say â€œIn other news,â€? there should be some other news.</i> </p>

<p>Jim, you made me remember <i>Wargames</i>.</p>

<p>The scene is early in the film, and Matthew Broderick arrives home. It&#8217;s a pretty straightforward entrance: he&#8217;ll enter the door then go to the stairs (frame right).  The TV is on, and the anchor (a real anchor from a local Seattle affiliate) after finishing the story-relevant business, says&#8230;</p>

<p><i>ANCHOR (ON TV): &#8230; In other news, a fire at a prophylactic recycling facility &#8211; -</i></p>

<p>I don&#8217;t know whether it was scripted, or an ad lib. (I haven&#8217;t read Walter Parkes&#8217; screenplay. I&#8217;m gonna say ad lib; that they shot longer to allow for more choice in when to cut out of the shot.)</p>

<p>There you have it. An occasion when they actually continued to &#8220;other news.&#8221;</p>

<p>(Not sure if this is pointed out on the DVD, since I saw it years ago on VHS.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dante Kleinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante Kleinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I made a lot of mistakes with this the first time I tried to use TV to explain something.  By the time I made it to a third draft, and finally realized what a stupid coincidence it was for the one time someone turns on the news that it&#039;s relevant to them, I felt like a real dope.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a lot of mistakes with this the first time I tried to use TV to explain something.  By the time I made it to a third draft, and finally realized what a stupid coincidence it was for the one time someone turns on the news that it&#8217;s relevant to them, I felt like a real dope.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty unrelated to this entry (although I did need this article today for a screenplay I am currently writing, so thanks for the kismet): Today&#039;s my first day reading your blog, and I&#039;m enjoying it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty unrelated to this entry (although I did need this article today for a screenplay I am currently writing, so thanks for the kismet): Today&#8217;s my first day reading your blog, and I&#8217;m enjoying it!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ed Araquel</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-60141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Araquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think &quot;Sean of the Dead&quot; made effective use of TV news reporting not only because the newscasts felt real but they gave the characters information that they needed without making it seem cliched.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Sean of the Dead&#8221; made effective use of TV news reporting not only because the newscasts felt real but they gave the characters information that they needed without making it seem cliched.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: teb</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/tv-in-movies/comment-page-1#comment-60137</link>
		<dc:creator>teb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the Blake Synder rule of keeping Press out of the story.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Blake Synder rule of keeping Press out of the story.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SIGNS used television as a window into the world. The movie is about aliens invading earth - and yet it is entirely set on a farm. The TV is the only (story) device that makes us feel there is a global event occuring. One character is glued to the TV for half the film. And even in the climax it is the (turned off!) television set that reveals the creature. A sign-? I thinks YES!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIGNS used television as a window into the world. The movie is about aliens invading earth &#8211; and yet it is entirely set on a farm. The TV is the only (story) device that makes us feel there is a global event occuring. One character is glued to the TV for half the film. And even in the climax it is the (turned off!) television set that reveals the creature. A sign-? I thinks YES!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Batutta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Close Encounters has a great scene where a TV newsreport is on in the foreground, and Roy Neary is arguing with his wife in the background. It&#039;s a long take and perfectly timed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Close Encounters has a great scene where a TV newsreport is on in the foreground, and Roy Neary is arguing with his wife in the background. It&#8217;s a long take and perfectly timed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I write for TV news, and it&#039;s always crystal clear which screenwriters either have a background in the business -- or have become good students of the craft.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not only is there a cadence, but good TV news writers write to the pictures, too. You rarely see that done in news reports in movies.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write for TV news, and it&#8217;s always crystal clear which screenwriters either have a background in the business &#8212; or have become good students of the craft.</p>

<p>Not only is there a cadence, but good TV news writers write to the pictures, too. You rarely see that done in news reports in movies.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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