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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-112747</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How will the strike affect this deal? Is writing just on hold, or is the whole thing in jeopardy?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will the strike affect this deal? Is writing just on hold, or is the whole thing in jeopardy?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevan</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-106027</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have no gripes about a creative person or group finding an outlet where they can offer their work for monetary gain, that&#039;s mainly what it&#039;s all about. I also understand the agreement you guys have made, I&#039;ve read the post, I understand it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As long as this deal leads to you guys writing screenplays with stories that compel us to go the movies and buy the DVDs I&#039;m all for that!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You guys need to get adults back into the cinema and that means movies like Touch of Evil, Chinatown, Point Blank, Deliverance, stuff like that..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck with this...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kevan&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no gripes about a creative person or group finding an outlet where they can offer their work for monetary gain, that&#8217;s mainly what it&#8217;s all about. I also understand the agreement you guys have made, I&#8217;ve read the post, I understand it.</p>

<p>As long as this deal leads to you guys writing screenplays with stories that compel us to go the movies and buy the DVDs I&#8217;m all for that!</p>

<p>You guys need to get adults back into the cinema and that means movies like Touch of Evil, Chinatown, Point Blank, Deliverance, stuff like that..</p>

<p>Good luck with this&#8230;</p>

<p>Kevan</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-105613</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;&#039;TheInterpreter is one of the least informed voices on the subject of the WGA that I have ever witnessed on Craigâ€™s site. Iâ€™m not even a WGA member, and even I can understand how this has no negative effect on current negotiations.&#039;&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t join in the discussion on Craig&#039;s board. Precisely because of posts like these. Can we stick to informed debate rather than guesswork and ad homen attacks?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;TheInterpreter is one of the least informed voices on the subject of the WGA that I have ever witnessed on Craigâ€™s site. Iâ€™m not even a WGA member, and even I can understand how this has no negative effect on current negotiations.&#8221;</p>

<p>I didn&#8217;t join in the discussion on Craig&#8217;s board. Precisely because of posts like these. Can we stick to informed debate rather than guesswork and ad homen attacks?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Scott Bailey</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-105569</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Scott Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The reason the dissent has been dismissed is because it is without merit. TheInterpreter is one of the least informed voices on the subject of the WGA that I have ever witnessed on Craig&#039;s site. I&#039;m not even a WGA member, and even I can understand how this has no negative effect on current negotiations. The WGA is negotiating MINIMUMS, and this deal simply raises the ceiling on MAXIMUMS, as well as changing the terms by which the best writers get compensated. These are GOOD things, and Interpreter&#039;s bitching over there smacked of nothing more than jealousy, and a complete misunderstanding (probably willful) of what has actually happened with this deal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the dissent has been dismissed is because it is without merit. TheInterpreter is one of the least informed voices on the subject of the WGA that I have ever witnessed on Craig&#8217;s site. I&#8217;m not even a WGA member, and even I can understand how this has no negative effect on current negotiations. The WGA is negotiating MINIMUMS, and this deal simply raises the ceiling on MAXIMUMS, as well as changing the terms by which the best writers get compensated. These are GOOD things, and Interpreter&#8217;s bitching over there smacked of nothing more than jealousy, and a complete misunderstanding (probably willful) of what has actually happened with this deal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-105441</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;welcome home, john...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome home, john&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-2#comment-105352</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just to clarify my above post, I&#039;m talking about your deal perhaps creating a more general culture within studios where they &#039;&#039;encourage&#039;&#039; [pressure] writers into taking on more risk. They need to roll three sevens instead of two to make serious money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is the big danger to my mind. I fully appreciate that this deal is for one script and you can go elsewhere and still get your full quote. But what if &#039;elsewhere&#039; disappears?  The rest of the studios begin to think &#039;Hey, why are we paying six and seven figures when a precedent has been set for A list writers taking on the risk of non production?&#039;&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Human nature being what it is of course they are going to try to persuade writers to take a small up front in return for what will be, for most writers, a mythical back end. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think this is a great deal for A listers. I sincerely mean that. No doubt I will be accused of jealousy but them&#039;s the breaks. I just think we are entering dangerous waters when writers take on risk. Actors and directors on back end deals are slightly different. They know the movie has a good chance of being made and have done little or no work until it is greenlit. Not to mention star actors still get a hefty wedge up front and a back end deal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify my above post, I&#8217;m talking about your deal perhaps creating a more general culture within studios where they &#8221;encourage&#8221; [pressure] writers into taking on more risk. They need to roll three sevens instead of two to make serious money.</p>

<p>That is the big danger to my mind. I fully appreciate that this deal is for one script and you can go elsewhere and still get your full quote. But what if &#8216;elsewhere&#8217; disappears?  The rest of the studios begin to think &#8216;Hey, why are we paying six and seven figures when a precedent has been set for A list writers taking on the risk of non production?&#8221;</p>

<p>Human nature being what it is of course they are going to try to persuade writers to take a small up front in return for what will be, for most writers, a mythical back end. </p>

<p>I think this is a great deal for A listers. I sincerely mean that. No doubt I will be accused of jealousy but them&#8217;s the breaks. I just think we are entering dangerous waters when writers take on risk. Actors and directors on back end deals are slightly different. They know the movie has a good chance of being made and have done little or no work until it is greenlit. Not to mention star actors still get a hefty wedge up front and a back end deal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-1#comment-105351</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;&#039;Ed:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then Iâ€™ve given you your response to them, right? â€œSure, Iâ€™ll take the 300K just as soon as you guarantee me the 2.5% fdg that goes with it.â€?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would definitely give that a go Craig.  But consider the likelyhood of my script being produced as against yours? I might be able to negotiate the same deal, but I&#039;d argue the chances of your deal paying off are much greater than mine. I&#039;m not complaining about that. &#039;A&#039; listers have earned that status.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We can&#039;t all be &#039;A&#039; listers and given how many scripts are bought and never produced I can see a case for the non A lister preferring a bird in the hand in the form of a bigger up front payment. Whether this will be available or not is something that your deal could have a direct bearing on.  I&#039;m not saying it will, just saying it could happen. We shall see in the fullness of time.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Ed:</p>

<p>Then Iâ€™ve given you your response to them, right? â€œSure, Iâ€™ll take the 300K just as soon as you guarantee me the 2.5% fdg that goes with it.â€?</p>

<p>I would definitely give that a go Craig.  But consider the likelyhood of my script being produced as against yours? I might be able to negotiate the same deal, but I&#8217;d argue the chances of your deal paying off are much greater than mine. I&#8217;m not complaining about that. &#8216;A&#8217; listers have earned that status.</p>

<p>We can&#8217;t all be &#8216;A&#8217; listers and given how many scripts are bought and never produced I can see a case for the non A lister preferring a bird in the hand in the form of a bigger up front payment. Whether this will be available or not is something that your deal could have a direct bearing on.  I&#8217;m not saying it will, just saying it could happen. We shall see in the fullness of time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Shelly</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-1#comment-105344</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Didn&#039;t leave my name because I was in a hurry.  Just jumped over here from Artful Writer.  I wasn&#039;t debating, just following the debate and commenting that opposing views were being dismissed by personal attack.  Kind of the &quot;you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about&quot; variety.  Thought, maybe, I&#039;d read some more views here where I don&#039;t see such attacks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t leave my name because I was in a hurry.  Just jumped over here from Artful Writer.  I wasn&#8217;t debating, just following the debate and commenting that opposing views were being dismissed by personal attack.  Kind of the &#8220;you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about&#8221; variety.  Thought, maybe, I&#8217;d read some more views here where I don&#8217;t see such attacks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-1#comment-105335</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congrats John!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The best of the deal: great writers writing original scripts! My prayers have been answered!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats John!</p>

<p>The best of the deal: great writers writing original scripts! My prayers have been answered!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John August</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-1#comment-105330</link>
		<dc:creator>John August</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anonymous (#46):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why are you Anonymous? I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;d expect anyone to continue a debate with you when you won&#039;t give your real name.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous (#46):</p>

<p>Why are you Anonymous? I don&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;d expect anyone to continue a debate with you when you won&#8217;t give your real name.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2007/the-big-fox-deal/comment-page-1#comment-105326</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are more than a few negative comments over on Craig&#039;s Blog.  The debate is pretty good.  But a couple of the opposing views have been chased away.  Too bad.  Maybe, they&#039;ll post here.  I&#039;d like to hear more.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more than a few negative comments over on Craig&#8217;s Blog.  The debate is pretty good.  But a couple of the opposing views have been chased away.  Too bad.  Maybe, they&#8217;ll post here.  I&#8217;d like to hear more.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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