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		<title>By: Felix PeÃ±a</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2006/how-accurate-is-the-page-per-minute-rule/comment-page-1#comment-118920</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix PeÃ±a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wanna say reading all your remarks and comments makes me feel so much better knowing i&#039;m not the only one lost. I have been asking the same question for the past 3 months and one thing i have learned is I just have to get started and it should all fall in place.
Like everyone else i feel i have a super idea for a screenplay.
But this is the first time in about fifteen yrs that i&#039;m putting pen to paper other than song writing.It feels good.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you all&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanna say reading all your remarks and comments makes me feel so much better knowing i&#8217;m not the only one lost. I have been asking the same question for the past 3 months and one thing i have learned is I just have to get started and it should all fall in place.
Like everyone else i feel i have a super idea for a screenplay.
But this is the first time in about fifteen yrs that i&#8217;m putting pen to paper other than song writing.It feels good.</p>

<p>Thank you all</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: steve winfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve winfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to know about script timing and the script layout. I&#039;m starting to write scrips and I want each page to be 1 minute screen  time. But what I&#039;m not sure about is lets say I have written half a page and that half a page is roughly 1 minute screen time do I then go straight onto the next page or does every page have to be fully covered because you can write 1 minute screen time with just a few lines if you wanted so writing a whole page might be like 5 or 10 minutes screen time, can you start a knew page even if the previous page is only have done or do you have to fill every page from top to bottom.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to know about script timing and the script layout. I&#8217;m starting to write scrips and I want each page to be 1 minute screen  time. But what I&#8217;m not sure about is lets say I have written half a page and that half a page is roughly 1 minute screen time do I then go straight onto the next page or does every page have to be fully covered because you can write 1 minute screen time with just a few lines if you wanted so writing a whole page might be like 5 or 10 minutes screen time, can you start a knew page even if the previous page is only have done or do you have to fill every page from top to bottom.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2006/how-accurate-is-the-page-per-minute-rule/comment-page-1#comment-7264</link>
		<dc:creator>DGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SUCCESS!  My 127 pages are now a skinny 116.  It flows much more naturally, and loses none of the visual/dramatic impact.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for all your help and suggestions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;~Devin&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUCCESS!  My 127 pages are now a skinny 116.  It flows much more naturally, and loses none of the visual/dramatic impact.</p>

<p>Thanks for all your help and suggestions.</p>

<p>~Devin</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>http://johnaugust.com/archives/2006/how-accurate-is-the-page-per-minute-rule/comment-page-1#comment-7170</link>
		<dc:creator>DGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Brett.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know the pages will probably melt away once I remove flowery descriptions and find short-n-sweet ways to express them.  I guess it&#039;s better to have too much than too little!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How many scripts have you written (just curious), and what were the genres/topics?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Come visit my blog, if you like (http://devinbennett.wordpress.com)... I&#039;m creating a space for aspiring scribes (like myself) to open up and exchange thoughts.  So far, I&#039;ve gotten some good responses.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Take care, and thanks!
~Devin&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brett.</p>

<p>I know the pages will probably melt away once I remove flowery descriptions and find short-n-sweet ways to express them.  I guess it&#8217;s better to have too much than too little!</p>

<p>How many scripts have you written (just curious), and what were the genres/topics?</p>

<p>Come visit my blog, if you like (<a href="http://devinbennett.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://devinbennett.wordpress.com</a>)&#8230; I&#8217;m creating a space for aspiring scribes (like myself) to open up and exchange thoughts.  So far, I&#8217;ve gotten some good responses.</p>

<p>Take care, and thanks!
~Devin</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Losing seven pages will be easier than you imagine, Devin... once you start to recognize just how little you actually need to do the job the way it actually needs to be done.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a non-repped non-sold non-nuthing struggling wannabee just like 90% of the people out here, but I do know this much: I now ENJOY that first pass edit where I get to go at my just-completed first assembly (&quot;vomit draft&quot;) with a meat cleaver and a burning need to carve down the page count. If you&#039;re coming from a creative writing background, I can all but guarantee you that your first stabs at screenwriting will be wordy and far too &quot;novel-esque.&quot; Read scripts-- read as many as you can stomach, and pay close attention to the minimalistic descriptions you find.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And as Bill Witliff said last year at the Austin festival, &quot;be careful about puttin&#039; a whole lotta stock in any advice, &#039;cuz it&#039;s all mostly bullshit anyway.&quot;  ;-)
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wordy B&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing seven pages will be easier than you imagine, Devin&#8230; once you start to recognize just how little you actually need to do the job the way it actually needs to be done.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m a non-repped non-sold non-nuthing struggling wannabee just like 90% of the people out here, but I do know this much: I now ENJOY that first pass edit where I get to go at my just-completed first assembly (&#8220;vomit draft&#8221;) with a meat cleaver and a burning need to carve down the page count. If you&#8217;re coming from a creative writing background, I can all but guarantee you that your first stabs at screenwriting will be wordy and far too &#8220;novel-esque.&#8221; Read scripts&#8211; read as many as you can stomach, and pay close attention to the minimalistic descriptions you find.</p>

<p>And as Bill Witliff said last year at the Austin festival, &#8220;be careful about puttin&#8217; a whole lotta stock in any advice, &#8216;cuz it&#8217;s all mostly bullshit anyway.&#8221;  ;-)
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wordy B</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh boy... losing seven pages is going to suck!  But given that I am still a nobody in the industry, I&#039;d better get her down to 120.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for all of the advice -- wish me luck!
~Devin&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy&#8230; losing seven pages is going to suck!  But given that I am still a nobody in the industry, I&#8217;d better get her down to 120.</p>

<p>Thanks for all of the advice &#8212; wish me luck!
~Devin</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leif,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought the same thing when I started, that the story was more important than the format. I was only half right.  To take the story seriously, you have to present yourself as serious. That means proper format.  Does that mean stress over it? No. If you play with the rules a bit, but still have a good script, you might get away with it. But don&#039;t push your luck, it&#039;s hard enough to get someone to read your script when it&#039;s done right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically this leads back to John&#039;s seminar about being professional.  Even amateurs need to be professional.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leif,</p>

<p>I thought the same thing when I started, that the story was more important than the format. I was only half right.  To take the story seriously, you have to present yourself as serious. That means proper format.  Does that mean stress over it? No. If you play with the rules a bit, but still have a good script, you might get away with it. But don&#8217;t push your luck, it&#8217;s hard enough to get someone to read your script when it&#8217;s done right.</p>

<p>Basically this leads back to John&#8217;s seminar about being professional.  Even amateurs need to be professional.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Genre matters. Comedies as a rule should be lite. ~100 pages.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genre matters. Comedies as a rule should be lite. ~100 pages.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Philip Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scriptweaver brings a great point.  Periwinkle? Do people do that? JESUS.  Three holes and brass brads people, it ain&#039;t complicated.  As to length - he&#039;s dead on.  Keep it 120 or LESS.  Not that your script might be great at 127 - but because you&#039;re not known.  John A. is, so he can go longer because people know that what he has to say is of value, even if his script is over 120.  If your script is over 120 they&#039;ll assume you&#039;re a sloppy writer.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As to a minute a page, this is one of those Hollywood myths that has become folklore.  But yes, if you average it all out, yes perhaps it&#039;s close.  If you script is a mix of action and thoughtful witty banter, yes, good chance.  If it&#039;s My Dinner with Andre and it&#039;s all - you&#039;ll be more at 30 seconds a page.  If it&#039;s all blistering action, you could be at 79 pages and have a 100 minute movie.  You can use it as a very very loose rule.
Phil Morton
http://www.screenwriterbones.blogspot.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scriptweaver brings a great point.  Periwinkle? Do people do that? JESUS.  Three holes and brass brads people, it ain&#8217;t complicated.  As to length &#8211; he&#8217;s dead on.  Keep it 120 or LESS.  Not that your script might be great at 127 &#8211; but because you&#8217;re not known.  John A. is, so he can go longer because people know that what he has to say is of value, even if his script is over 120.  If your script is over 120 they&#8217;ll assume you&#8217;re a sloppy writer.  </p>

<p>As to a minute a page, this is one of those Hollywood myths that has become folklore.  But yes, if you average it all out, yes perhaps it&#8217;s close.  If you script is a mix of action and thoughtful witty banter, yes, good chance.  If it&#8217;s My Dinner with Andre and it&#8217;s all &#8211; you&#8217;ll be more at 30 seconds a page.  If it&#8217;s all blistering action, you could be at 79 pages and have a 100 minute movie.  You can use it as a very very loose rule.
Phil Morton
<a href="http://www.screenwriterbones.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.screenwriterbones.blogspot.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ScriptWeaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScriptWeaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Devin--&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sometimes it depends on who you&#039;re writing for.  If you&#039;re submitting to contests, 127 pages is too long.  In fact, many contests won&#039;t let you submit anything over 120.  As an Austin Film Festival contest reader, I&#039;ll put a script back on the shelf if it&#039;s too long and let someone else trudge through it.  If you have periwinkle card stock and spiral bounding, I&#039;ll put it back because I already know you haven&#039;t done any research and your script probably lacks effort too.  If your script title eludes to it being a &quot;vampire&quot; script, I&#039;ll probably put it back because I&#039;ve already read five of them.  It&#039;s a sad reality, but yes, these are negative knocks on a script before anyone has even had a chance to read the story, no matter how good it may be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now if you&#039;ve already got an &quot;in&quot; and can submit straight to agents and producers, then you might be able to get away with a lengthy script.  I&#039;d still stay away from the periwinkle card stock though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devin&#8211;</p>

<p>Sometimes it depends on who you&#8217;re writing for.  If you&#8217;re submitting to contests, 127 pages is too long.  In fact, many contests won&#8217;t let you submit anything over 120.  As an Austin Film Festival contest reader, I&#8217;ll put a script back on the shelf if it&#8217;s too long and let someone else trudge through it.  If you have periwinkle card stock and spiral bounding, I&#8217;ll put it back because I already know you haven&#8217;t done any research and your script probably lacks effort too.  If your script title eludes to it being a &#8220;vampire&#8221; script, I&#8217;ll probably put it back because I&#8217;ve already read five of them.  It&#8217;s a sad reality, but yes, these are negative knocks on a script before anyone has even had a chance to read the story, no matter how good it may be.</p>

<p>Now if you&#8217;ve already got an &#8220;in&#8221; and can submit straight to agents and producers, then you might be able to get away with a lengthy script.  I&#8217;d still stay away from the periwinkle card stock though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Leif Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leif Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Devin, I&#039;m certainly no expert, or even an amatuer yet, but I would say not to worry about the rules of scriptwriter. As long as the format is in the general ballpark of what it&#039;s meant to be so its easily readable by the people who read 100 scripts a week, you should be ok. The main thing is to make sure your story and writing are good enough that they want to read it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck with your writing!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devin, I&#8217;m certainly no expert, or even an amatuer yet, but I would say not to worry about the rules of scriptwriter. As long as the format is in the general ballpark of what it&#8217;s meant to be so its easily readable by the people who read 100 scripts a week, you should be ok. The main thing is to make sure your story and writing are good enough that they want to read it.</p>

<p>Good luck with your writing!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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