Comments on: On friends, colleagues and jealousy http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy A ton of useful information about screenwriting. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:52:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: miahz.com » Blog Archive » Industry Odds http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-2#comment-4004 miahz.com » Blog Archive » Industry Odds Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:28:35 +0000 /?p=504#comment-4004 <p>[...] John August. “On friends, colleagues and jealousy.” [via] [...]</p> [...] John August. “On friends, colleagues and jealousy.” [via] [...]

]]> By: cbrown http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3718 cbrown Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:29:28 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3718 <p>Was joking. I liked your formulation there. There is a line from Thoreau somewhere: "It is futile to try to sit down to write, if you have not stood up to live." (Paraphrasing.) I read that line in high school, and it was very discouraging. It made me want to join the Peace Corps. (I didn't.)</p> Was joking. I liked your formulation there. There is a line from Thoreau somewhere: “It is futile to try to sit down to write, if you have not stood up to live.” (Paraphrasing.) I read that line in high school, and it was very discouraging. It made me want to join the Peace Corps. (I didn’t.)

]]> By: Richard in Los Angeles http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3717 Richard in Los Angeles Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:16:51 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3717 <p>oh.</p> oh.

]]> By: cbrown http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3713 cbrown Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:07:03 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3713 <p>Hello? Obviously you're unacquainted with Cezanne's materpiece, "Still Life In Darkened Broom Closet."</p> Hello? Obviously you’re unacquainted with Cezanne’s materpiece, “Still Life In Darkened Broom Closet.”

]]> By: Richard in Los Angeles http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3709 Richard in Los Angeles Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:29:02 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3709 <p>I'm suddenly remembering "Barton Fink". Wasn't he a writer who didn't have the time for life experience because he was too busy writing importantly about life experience? A good writer needs to live a full life - which includes friendships- otherwise, what sort of experience can he or she bring to their work? Artists don't live in a void. You can't paint a still-life in a darkened broom closet.</p> I’m suddenly remembering “Barton Fink”. Wasn’t he a writer who didn’t have the time for life experience because he was too busy writing importantly about life experience? A good writer needs to live a full life – which includes friendships- otherwise, what sort of experience can he or she bring to their work? Artists don’t live in a void. You can’t paint a still-life in a darkened broom closet.

]]> By: Anonymous http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3604 Anonymous Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:18:15 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3604 <p>Clearly, Jay is trying out for the role of the next Troy Duffy. The sad part is, at least Troy Duffy got his picture on the front page of Variety before his head swelled up. All Jay's got so far is a meeting with some CE at Paramount.</p> <p>I agree -- lock this thread. It's giving me a headache.</p> Clearly, Jay is trying out for the role of the next Troy Duffy. The sad part is, at least Troy Duffy got his picture on the front page of Variety before his head swelled up. All Jay’s got so far is a meeting with some CE at Paramount.

I agree — lock this thread. It’s giving me a headache.

]]> By: cbrown http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3595 cbrown Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:34:23 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3595 <p>Jay,</p> <ol> <li><p>There was no irony whatsoever in my previous post. If you don't know that some thoughts (especially thoughts that begin with "Fuck all of you!") are best left unspoken (and un-posted), you will soon enough.</p></li> <li><p>You have no idea who I am, and you certainly know nothing about my career.</p></li> <li><p>On the other hand, I and the others have found out plenty about you. Good work! I'll leave it to you to ponder whether you have moved up or down in our estimation. Of course it doesn't matter what the readers of John August's writing blog think. We are, as you have indicated, just a bunch of wannabees. So I wonder: Why have you have spent so much time here today trying to justify your embarrassing outbursts?</p></li> </ol> <p>CBrown</p> Jay,

  1. There was no irony whatsoever in my previous post. If you don’t know that some thoughts (especially thoughts that begin with “Fuck all of you!”) are best left unspoken (and un-posted), you will soon enough.

  2. You have no idea who I am, and you certainly know nothing about my career.

  3. On the other hand, I and the others have found out plenty about you. Good work! I’ll leave it to you to ponder whether you have moved up or down in our estimation. Of course it doesn’t matter what the readers of John August’s writing blog think. We are, as you have indicated, just a bunch of wannabees. So I wonder: Why have you have spent so much time here today trying to justify your embarrassing outbursts?

CBrown

]]> By: RDane http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3593 RDane Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:30:00 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3593 <p>Yeah... well... your Mama!</p> Yeah… well… your Mama!

]]> By: Jay http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3592 Jay Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:04:55 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3592 <p>Ouch. I guess now I know why most people who get a foot in the door in H'wood don't talk about this stuff, even though most of them (with a sliver of conscience) have these feelings.</p> <p>What can I say? I'm still learning the ropes. The good news is, I have a Paramount meeting this afternoon, and the exec I'm meeting with, I could almost guarantee, couldn't give a rat's ass about what I have to say about personal H'wood relationships, about what my friends think about my rather modest success of late, or about what anonymous (or anyone else here on John's website) has to say about my existential meanderings.</p> <p>Best to everyone and no hard feelings --</p> <p>Jay</p> Ouch. I guess now I know why most people who get a foot in the door in H’wood don’t talk about this stuff, even though most of them (with a sliver of conscience) have these feelings.

What can I say? I’m still learning the ropes. The good news is, I have a Paramount meeting this afternoon, and the exec I’m meeting with, I could almost guarantee, couldn’t give a rat’s ass about what I have to say about personal H’wood relationships, about what my friends think about my rather modest success of late, or about what anonymous (or anyone else here on John’s website) has to say about my existential meanderings.

Best to everyone and no hard feelings –

Jay

]]> By: Anonymous http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3591 Anonymous Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:30:19 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3591 <p>Save your self-righteous crap for your own blog. The question isn't why you would want to be friends with anyone, but why would anyone want to be friends with you?</p> <p>John, can we lock this thread so no one has to suffer through Jay's rants anymore?</p> Save your self-righteous crap for your own blog. The question isn’t why you would want to be friends with anyone, but why would anyone want to be friends with you?

John, can we lock this thread so no one has to suffer through Jay’s rants anymore?

]]> By: Jay http://johnaugust.com/archives/2005/on-friends-and-jealousy/comment-page-1#comment-3589 Jay Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:09:02 +0000 /?p=504#comment-3589 <p>Cbrown -- Of course you realize that your terribly ironic stance, that safe distance from which you feel comfortable criticizing others' genuine feelings, that this is the very thing that's keeping you from writing that break-through script.</p> <p>Or not. Maybe you're just no good.</p> <p>I don't know about you or anyone else, but I genuinely miss the unapologetic heartfelt artists of days gone by. Those who weren't afraid of being caught with their ironic pants down around their ankles. The horror! Guys like Bruce Springsteen and Alan Ball. I'd rather be embarrassed by a genuine moment gone wrong than spend a lifetime hurling ironic softballs from a safe distance, like some Andy Warhol copycat, some warmed-over meatloaf that wasn't even that good first time around.</p> <p>Best to you --</p> <p>Jay</p> <p>-- Jay</p> Cbrown — Of course you realize that your terribly ironic stance, that safe distance from which you feel comfortable criticizing others’ genuine feelings, that this is the very thing that’s keeping you from writing that break-through script.

Or not. Maybe you’re just no good.

I don’t know about you or anyone else, but I genuinely miss the unapologetic heartfelt artists of days gone by. Those who weren’t afraid of being caught with their ironic pants down around their ankles. The horror! Guys like Bruce Springsteen and Alan Ball. I’d rather be embarrassed by a genuine moment gone wrong than spend a lifetime hurling ironic softballs from a safe distance, like some Andy Warhol copycat, some warmed-over meatloaf that wasn’t even that good first time around.

Best to you –

Jay

– Jay

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